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at present, i am unable to play many games because my system is 64-bits. Crying or Very sad

will there be 64-bit support in the future? Or emulators aren't bothered with 64-bits...

snkcube · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:44 am Post subject:

ZSNES runs fine under 64 bit OSs. There really is no need for ZSNES to be 64 bit.
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Deathlike2 · ZSNES Developer Joined: 28 Dec 2004 Posts: 6882

In the future, probably.

However, if you're running 64-bit, it's more than enough for ZSNES.
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Nightcrawler · Romhacking God Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 1937

The only thing that is really moving the 64-bit transition now is increased addressing for more memory and peripherals. If 32-bit were still sufficient for this, 64-bit still wouldn't be catching on. I imagine much of the same will occur. We will have to start utilizing all 64-bit can offer us and start exceeding it's capacity before there is any serious movement to 128 bit.

AMD64 has been out for how many years now and went nowhere fast (as far as 64-bit is concerned)?

We are seeing diminishing returns for each generation increase, much like we do for consoles. 8-bit to 16-bit was huge. 16-bit to 32-bit was big, but not quite the leap 16-bit was. Now we're going 64-bit. Less of an impact than 32-bit. I imagine when we finally hit 128-bit, it will be about the same or slightly less.
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creaothceann · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:30 pm Post subject:

There were quite a few games using protected mode (via DOS4/G and other DOS extenders).
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byuu · bsnes Developer Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 2487

Virtualization would solve the issue of compatibility, but non-native execution (eg dynarec) would just tack on yet another layer of latency. It's actually somewhat noticeable when I ran ZSNES in DOSbox for the debugger. Or when I run Super Game Boy games.

grinvader · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject:

ok, "anything fine".
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badinsults · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:38 pm Post subject:

I really see no benefit of moving to 128 bit processors, unless you are doing heavy duty math that requires ultra high precision. And even then, most scientists use FORTRAN 77 still, which only has 64 bit math as a non-standard extension by IBM. Really, going beyond 64 bit is unnecessary for all by the most niche things (video games may be one of those, but regular computer applications that most people have are not one of them).
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grinvader · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:51 am Post subject:

There's also the fact that it's relatively easy to implement daisy-chains operations to get pseudo-huge size variables for extra precision thing at a mild cpu time cost - which is cheaper and cheaper with each generation.
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Neo Kaiser · Inmate Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 1532

I remember Pagefault releasing a prototype of a 64 bit version of ZSNES. I didn't download it...I regret it.
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franpa · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:59 pm Post subject:

I mean that Windows 7 has the greatest potential to push 64bit as 64bit is included with every retail purchase of home premium, pro, ultimate, enterprise editions. Where as with Vista it was only Ultimate and you could have either 32 or 64bit but not both for the one price, same with XP.
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