Best SNES emulator with netplay?

elementalwindx · Post by **elementalwindx** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:42 pm

What is the best emulator for the SNES so far that has the best least buggiest netplay?

ZSnes is soooo buggy with netplay and takes a lot of fine tuning to make it work. Also what was the point in disabling it in 1.5?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:05 pm

Shouldn't it be obvious? If the code was already bad as is, what difference would it have made to disable it? The netplay code wasn't even faring well in the first place, besides being linked to the movie code at the time.

elementalwindx · Post by **elementalwindx** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:09 pm

So is there a better snes emulator out there with the option to play over the net?

Post by **grinvader** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:36 pm

I advise some cheese.

Exophase · Post by **Exophase** » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:16 pm

Deathlike2 wrote:Shouldn't it be obvious? If the code was already bad as is, what difference would it have made to disable it? The netplay code wasn't even faring well in the first place, besides being linked to the movie code at the time.

Yeah, thinking back on all those years I spent using ZSNES's netplay flawlessly where it performed better than any other emulator netplay I've ever used, I'm surprised it took them THIS long to remove it!

ReRuss · Post by **ReRuss** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:52 am

1.337 works well even on crap connections... and 1.36 worked fine for a long time

Post by **grinvader** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:51 am

Those don't work on linux anymore.

paulguy · Post by **paulguy** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:55 pm

1.42n works in Linux.

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:09 pm

Man, I've been hooked on bsnes.
At first it was like, whats the point, zsnes is beast
but like after i tried bsnes, it really does run closer to the actual Snes.
I wonder if it will ever have net play.
That would be nice..

kode54 · Post by **kode54** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:28 am

ZSNES is still the king if you need frame relative input macros, and also if you need to fast forward the whole process, say to 30x realtime? I had to get my Soul Blazer game to level 50 in under 5 minutes somehow!

Yeah, it would be great if bsnes had netplay capability, and it's entirely possible it won't have the desync problems that zsnes currently has.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:36 am

Mike wrote:but like after i tried bsnes, it really does run closer to the actual Snes.

It would be really, really depressing if it required 10x the resources and still didn't manage to have higher compatibility ;)

Mike wrote:I wonder if it will ever have net play.

The "easy" part is finding someone who knows how to use sockets to help make it happen. The "hard" part will be finding two people with powerful enough systems. IIRC, you need some extra headroom even above fullspeed for netplay synchronization.

kode54 wrote:ZSNES is still the king if you need frame relative input macros, and also if you need to fast forward the whole process, say to 30x realtime?

And for laptop battery life.

A lot of this stuff all correlates together: frame-relative input macros are a function of automated input, which is similar to movie playback and netplay input.

kode54 wrote:Yeah, it would be great if bsnes had netplay capability, and it's entirely possible it won't have the desync problems that zsnes currently has.

Definitely no desync issues in the core, I've been careful about that since day one. Would make bug testing much more frustrating.

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:17 am

sockets are easy, they work like files.
what you need to do before you write and after you read from one is the hard part.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:09 pm

kode54 wrote:I had to get my Soul Blazer game to level 50 in under 5 minutes somehow!

fuck you, man
i used to do that the long way

roughly 5 hours and 45 minutes of swish-swish-swish 12K exp every 2.5 seconds

the 4 times I played through the game to try and find a different ending

kode54 · Post by **kode54** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:12 am

grinvader wrote:
kode54 wrote:I had to get my Soul Blazer game to level 50 in under 5 minutes somehow!
fuck you, man
i used to do that the long way

So did I. My brother suggested the macro method, since that's what he's done before, heh.

Anyway, it's not like it really makes the end game much easier. It only speeds up the first part of the final boss, the second part is always dependent on number of successful hits, regardless of attack strength.

I suppose it does mean you have more HP to withstand more hits during the fight, though. Eh, whatever.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:14 am

I seem to recall the Soulblazer boss wasn't too terrible, then again I was probably at the max level anyway. Been a long, long time. Need to replay that and IoG one of these days.

Now Ys 3 on the other hand, that's a hard mother fucker. I have to grind way, way past where you're supposed to. And even fully maxed out, I can't get past the third or fourth area without cheating >_<

Post by **odditude** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:18 pm

not that it's a good game or anything, but some of the bosses in Lagoon are cheap beyond belief. i don't remember that big globe thing in the ice cave being anything more than an exercise in dumb luck.