Zsnes TASM builds

RobZilla · Post by **RobZilla** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:22 pm

I came here a long time ago (4 years ago about) because I needed a Snes emu that would run on a p1 100mhz/16 mb of ram. Someone here referred me to TASM builds of Zsnes, and it ran beautifully on my limited hardware. I was wondering, is this still being done? I have a few older machines I'd like to set up for my nieces and nephews, that way they're not on mine ^_^.

Any help or points in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:02 pm

100MHz, are you serious?

http://www.electrocomputerwarehouse.com ... =129&bc=no
$49, complete system that's 10-20x faster. And they can run Windows XP instead of Windows for Workgroups 3.1. I'm sure you can do better than my first match on Google, too.

Running a system at 100% CPU usage costs you ~$1.50 a day. The system will pay for itself in roughly a month's usage, and your kids will thank you as adults for learning how to use modern computers :D

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:14 pm

nice 404-ish thing (:?) there byuu

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:20 pm

Fixed, sorry.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:59 am

byuu wrote:Fixed, sorry.

no prob. can this thing:

1) run windows 7?
2) run some games (like UT99/2004, as well as BF2, etc)

in any case, I see new $50 server in the works. mm..

gllt · Post by **gllt** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:05 am

So, that TASM build..

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:35 am

RobZilla wrote:I came here a long time ago (4 years ago about) because I needed a Snes emu that would run on a p1 100mhz/16 mb of ram. Someone here referred me to TASM builds of Zsnes, and it ran beautifully on my limited hardware. I was wondering, is this still being done? I have a few older machines I'd like to set up for my nieces and nephews, that way they're not on mine ^_^.

Any help or points in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

ZSNES has gotten much slower as emulation accuracy has increased. Recent builds won't run playably on a Pentium.

RobZilla · Post by **RobZilla** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:24 pm

byuu: thanks for the product placement, but I'd like to use my current hardware. Unemployment is a *****.

adventure_of_link: min specs for win 7 are 1ghz processor, 1 gig of ram, 128 mb video ram (for aero), 16gb of hd space. Would run it with the 9$ ram upgrade, but sluggishly.

Gil_Hamilton: any idea if i can get any of the older tasm builds? I'm not lookin for the bleeding edge, i just need something that will run decent speeds on a 333 celeron/466p2 with 192/256mb of ram respectively.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:58 pm

Are you sure it was TASM?

AFAIK, even the most recent of stuff uses NASM, unless someone was nice to enough to compile it with TASM, I don't ever recall it has ever happened.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:39 pm

RobZilla wrote:byuu: thanks for the product placement, but I'd like to use my current hardware. Unemployment is a *****.

adventure_of_link: min specs for win 7 are 1ghz processor, 1 gig of ram, 128 mb video ram (for aero), 16gb of hd space. Would run it with the 9$ ram upgrade, but sluggishly.

Gil_Hamilton: any idea if i can get any of the older tasm builds? I'm not lookin for the bleeding edge, i just need something that will run decent speeds on a 333 celeron/466p2 with 192/256mb of ram respectively.

hardly product placement

more hardware that is ten times faster is DIRT CHEAP right now

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:30 am

RobZilla wrote:byuu: thanks for the product placement, but I'd like to use my current hardware. Unemployment is a *****.

It was a Google match, not saying you should buy there specifically. I'm genuinely and sincerely interested in helping you make the most out of your time and money. I have no other reason to care that you're looking for a super fast version of ZSNES.

If you're broke, then the power consumption of a ~300w PC that needs 100% CPU usage to emulate the SNES is going to quickly dwarf the investment in a new machine that can nearly idle while playing said games.

If you can't afford a $50 PC, then you probably shouldn't be running the old PC and raising your utility payments.

i just need something that will run decent speeds on a 333 celeron/466p2 with 192/256mb of ram respectively

Now that's much better. I was under the impression you had a 100MHz system from your first post.

In that case, you probably want the -NASM- builds, which you can get here:
http://zsnes.zophar.net/shrine/
http://zsnes.zophar.net/shrine/old.html

Looks for the 0.NNNa builds, or go even older before you see the first 0.NNNc builds.

Rashidi · Post by **Rashidi** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:58 am

byuu wrote:Looks for the 0.NNNa builds, or go even older before you see the first 0.NNNc builds.

iirc, tha "a" version was a builds from assembler,
while the "c" version was.. um, well.. "C" builds.

RobZilla · Post by **RobZilla** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:37 pm

byuu wrote:If you can't afford a $50 PC, then you probably shouldn't be running the old PC and raising your utility payments.

Appreciate the sentiment, but my bills are taken care of atm.

byuu wrote:
RobZilla wrote:i just need something that will run decent speeds on a 333 celeron/466p2 with 192/256mb of ram respectively
Now that's much better. I was under the impression you had a 100MHz system from your first post.

In that case, you probably want the -NASM- builds, which you can get here:
http://zsnes.zophar.net/shrine/
http://zsnes.zophar.net/shrine/old.html

Looks for the 0.NNNa builds, or go even older before you see the first 0.NNNc builds.

Deathlike2 wrote:Are you sure it was TASM?

AFAIK, even the most recent of stuff uses NASM, unless someone was nice to enough to compile it with TASM, I don't ever recall it has ever happened.

Sorry about that. I went and looked up the old topic on the internet wayback machine, and yes it is in fact NASM, don't know where the hell i pulled tasm from.

http://web.archive.org/web/200406150131 ... p?p=259951

Byuu: you recommend the 0.9891a build? Or should i go older?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:56 pm

Even to this day, NASM used for every compiled version... I'm not sure how much better you could do at this point, other than using the older versions.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:28 pm

Generally speaking -- the older, the faster and less compatible. Just keep going back until you get reliable full speed w/o frame-skip.

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:21 pm

Rashidi wrote:
byuu wrote:Looks for the 0.NNNa builds, or go even older before you see the first 0.NNNc builds.
iirc, tha "a" version was a builds from assembler,
while the "c" version was.. um, well.. "C" builds.

No. 'a' versions were pure assembler, while 'c' versions had c code.

greytangerine · Post by **greytangerine** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:32 am

in case anybody was interested the super optimized build mentioned by the wayback machine can be found here: http://files.ipherswipsite.com/zsnes/special/

http://files.ipherswipsite.com/zsnes/special/ZSNESO.zip
http://files.ipherswipsite.com/zsnes/sp ... SNESWO.zip

Post by **Nach** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:07 pm

grinvader wrote:
Rashidi wrote:
byuu wrote:Looks for the 0.NNNa builds, or go even older before you see the first 0.NNNc builds.
iirc, tha "a" version was a builds from assembler,
while the "c" version was.. um, well.. "C" builds.
No. 'a' versions were pure assembler, while 'c' versions had c code.

That is correct. To elaborate even further, the original team only started to add C to it for tricky math used in DSP-1 emulation and the like. All those a versions when there is a c version will have less functionality than the c version.

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