ok, i need help

veryconfused · Post by **veryconfused** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:59 pm

i'm having trouble running the rom for star ocean, i tried to do everything that the readme document says, but it's a little confusing for me...

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:22 am

Does the ROM have a good checksum ? Use NSRT (see sig) to verify, and report back.

Starting with ZSnes v1.4, SDD-1 graphics packs are not needed anymore to run Star Ocean. May I also suggest to grab the latest ZSnes WIP (again, see sig) and report back.

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:40 am

1. Get a clean, (J) version of the game.
2. use the latest ZSNES so you don't have to worry about the S-DD1 graphics packs.
3. Put the english patch (.ips) in the same folder where your saves go.
4. Start ZSNES and Star Ocean.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:01 am

Actually, I just thought of this one:

Are you trying to run the *.ips file for Star Ocean as the ROM ?

If so, that's not the real ROM image of it, that is just a file that applies the translation of Star Ocean onto the ROM. Like Agozer said, find the clean (J) [!] image of Star Ocean. Don't ask where, it's the #1 rule on the board.

veryconfused · Post by **veryconfused** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:35 pm

my computer must be the problem... the star ocean file is showing .zip, do i have to extract it first? i have the latest zsnes, and the file is in the save thing, and all the screen says is checksum: fail

i wish i knew more about computers

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:09 pm

This is what I figured... but just in case:

Use a program which zips and unzips files (eg: WinZIP, WinRAR, 7z, the built-in Windows XP zip tool, BitZipper, etc), and report back the files in it.

I'm 90% sure that it's because you're trying to just load the *.ips of star ocean in ZSnes. As I've said before, the ips applies the translation to the Star Ocean ROM. You will need to get a clean (J) [!] Star Ocean ROM image. Don't ask where, it's against the board rules.

veryconfused · Post by **veryconfused** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:22 pm

so if i get the other one i found that worked before, but wasn't fully translated, will the one i have right now change it so it's fully translated?

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:51 pm

veryconfused wrote:so if i get the other one i found that worked before, but wasn't fully translated, will the one i have right now change it so it's fully translated?

It depends on what you mean by "fully translated".

Try to look for a CLEAN (J) rom. Before using the patch, run it on zsnes, if it's checksum is "good" then it's a clean rom.

Edit: Oh, nevermind then.

veryconfused · Post by **veryconfused** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 5:51 pm

ok, i got it to work

i finally understand what all of you are talking about, i never knew it was so simple... thanks for the help

veryconfused · Post by **veryconfused** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:00 pm

although, i still have one question... the rom works good and everything, but i noticed the checksum still says fail, anyone know why it says that?

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:04 pm

When you use a patch, the checksum becomes "fail" if it was good before the patch, there is no need to worry.

veryconfused · Post by **veryconfused** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:09 pm

ok, thanks, i was wondering what that was, i had that on some other games too, and i thought i did something wrong

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:43 pm

Joe Camacho wrote:When you use a patch, the checksum becomes "fail" if it was good before the patch, there is no need to worry.

The checksum fails only if the rom has been hardpatched. When you softpatch, ZSNES checks the checksum from the rom image, which is still good, and then applies the IPS data.

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Now if the checksum fails even if one used softpatching, the the rom image is bad.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:24 pm

veryconfused wrote:ok, i got it to work i finally understand what all of you are talking about, i never knew it was so simple... thanks for the help

That's what we're here for, man.

Glad to help

Post by **grinvader** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:00 pm

Agozer wrote:The checksum fails only if the rom has been hardpatched. When you softpatch, ZSNES checks the checksum from the rom image, which is still good, and then applies the IPS data.

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Now if the checksum fails even if one used softpatching, the the rom image is bad.

Please, please. Get your stuff right.

Softpatching is executed before the checksum is verified - it will yield the same results as hardpatching.

Post by **Agozer** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:02 pm

grinvader wrote:
Agozer wrote:The checksum fails only if the rom has been hardpatched. When you softpatch, ZSNES checks the checksum from the rom image, which is still good, and then applies the IPS data.

...

Now if the checksum fails even if one used softpatching, the the rom image is bad.
Please, please. Get your stuff right.

Softpatching is executed before the checksum is verified - it will yield the same results as hardpatching.

Hm. That's not what I've read... on this board anyway. Oh well, thanks for clearing it.