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And what scientific theories do you have in mind that were thought 100% iron-clad and got overturned?


Everything from Earth being the center of the universe(Geocentricity) or at least our solar system to Einstein proving that space is a pliable fabric rather than just static space comes to mind. I'm no doctor but countless medical theories(4 humors for example) that entire societies used to consider obvious facts have been completely debunked as well. Proving evolution(which really accelerated after discovering DNA) was also huge, of course. In the future, I'm guessing much of our understanding of gravity will be overturned as well due to differences between quantum gravity and "regular" non-quantum gravity, although I'm not knowledgeable enough to argue about it myself.

I think you're confusing scientific theories with philosophical ones. A scientific theory has to have been tested to some degree, making it carry a slight bit more weight than "the Earth is the center of the universe because I said so"


And yes, we currently know that both quantum physics and general relativity have serious issues. The math for the former blows up when you get above a certain size, and the math for the latter blows up when you get below a certain size.
And in most cases we use newtonian physics because it's wrong, but it's close enough to be usable in the vast majority of situations and the math is MUCH easier.

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I don't know about you, but I want to live forever. Maybe it's because I have no delusions of a grand experience awaiting me in death.

Surrogates seemed like a fine idea to me, until they got to the part of a computer virus that could be transmitted into the optical sensors of a surrogate body and cause a sensory overload in the controlling person of a magnitude which scrambles their brain into mush. Oh, and Bruce Willis blowing the whole system up in the end instead of safely shutting it down.


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What the fuck are you talking about? The Sixth Sense was an awesome film.






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And what scientific theories do you have in mind that were thought 100% iron-clad and got overturned?


Everything from Earth being the center of the universe(Geocentricity) or at least our solar system to Einstein proving that space is a pliable fabric rather than just static space comes to mind. I'm no doctor but countless medical theories(4 humors for example) that entire societies used to consider obvious facts have been completely debunked as well. Proving evolution(which really accelerated after discovering DNA) was also huge, of course. In the future, I'm guessing much of our understanding of gravity will be overturned as well due to differences between quantum gravity and "regular" non-quantum gravity, although I'm not knowledgeable enough to argue about it myself.


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And yes, we currently know that both quantum physics and general relativity have serious issues. The math for the former blows up when you get above a certain size, and the math for the latter blows up when you get below a certain size.
And in most cases we use newtonian physics because it's wrong, but it's close enough to be usable in the vast majority of situations and the math is MUCH easier.


Sure, they're considered philosophical issues now, but Geocentricity and the 4 humors were considered scientific facts hundreds of years ago; new age nonsense(as it's called today) WAS science back then in many cases. There was an extremely low bar when it came to evidence back then and the leading minds seemed to believe in that shit completely until it was debunked. The big bang debunking the idea of a static universe was pretty big too, although I'm sure I'm missing several details on that argument. The Big Bang/inflation VS Steady State battle is pretty interesting, and the BB theory obviously won although we're not even close to having a complete picture of how everything in the universe works, especially gravity. I'm guessing once we have even better telescopes that can probe even deeper than current ones, we'll find out that the universe is older than 13.7 billion years old. I wonder what will become of String Theory? ST, at least to a layman like myself, sounds almost like a set of religious or philosophical beliefs rather than a scientific theory, but I could be 100% wrong about that. I don't know even close to enough about physics to seriously evaluate either inflation or ST. I'm not a specialist in anything; I know a little bit about a ton of different subjects rather than specializing in anything.

The only reason I'm not talking about ZSNES development is because I haven't heard any news regarding its progress lately. Any big development news in the last several months? 9x has grown on me, but if a new ZSNES comes out that completely stomps on 9x, I'll gladly switch back. As of right now though, SNES9x 1.53 is absolutely superior to ZSNES 1.51, especially its sound emulation. Games like FF6 and CT sound near-perfect in 9x, compared to ZSNES which has very buggy sound when emulating both of them, but especially CT with its buggy monster noises. 9x having shader support doesn't hurt either. Compared to the latest version(s) of 9x, how fast do you want the next version of ZSNES to be? 1.51 can run on absolutely ancient machines, but considering you're going for MUCH greater accuracy I assume it won't be nearly as fast. I'll gladly take a big speed hit if it means incredibly accurate emulation as long as it isn't as slow as BSNES/higan.

The first time I played a SNES, the sound quality was what really blew me away. In 1991, it sounded better than much of the arcade hardware out at the time. The colors amazed my young mind as well, but it was the sound, especially in Link to the Past, that absolutely astounded me. LttP STILL sounds amazing today, as does FF6, CT, FF4 and many others. I've never owned a Genesis so I went straight from an NES to a SNES; the leap was massive, although not nearly as big, at least imo, as the leap from the SNES/Genesis to the PSX/SS/N64. The 3DO was too fucking expensive, and the Jaguar didn't have enough good software.(I actually own a Jaguar and I used to love playing Doom, Wolfenstein, and AvP on it)


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And yes, we currently know that both quantum physics and general relativity have serious issues. The math for the former blows up when you get above a certain size, and the math for the latter blows up when you get below a certain size.
And in most cases we use newtonian physics because it's wrong, but it's close enough to be usable in the vast majority of situations and the math is MUCH easier.


Sure, they're considered philosophical issues now, but Geocentricity and the 4 humors were considered scientific facts hundreds of years ago;

Not by any relevant definition of scientific. If you want to talk about modern scientific theories being overthrown, you should stick to the modern scientific definition of theory, where shit has to be tested.

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I'm guessing once we have even better telescopes that can probe even deeper than current ones, we'll find out that the universe is older than 13.7 billion years old.

Only if you can change the speed of light in a vacuum.


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I wonder what will become of String Theory? ST, at least to a layman like myself, sounds almost like a set of religious or philosophical beliefs rather than a scientific theory, but I could be 100% wrong about that.

A lot of scientists feel that way about it, too.

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Hundreds and especially thousands of years ago, "science" was defined very differently; it was nearly inseparable from religious/spiritual beliefs in many cases. Due to lack of technology, things like the 4 humors and geocentricity were considered scientific fact despite those "theories" not having any basis in actual fact. It's true that by our modern standards, they're not scientific theories, but they were considered as such in the past. I wouldn't go as far as calling this a debunked theory, but it's now obvious that the Sumerians were not the 1st civilization; Gobekli Tepe in modern day Turkey is around 11-12,000 years old, twice as old as what was thought to be the 1st civilization. As ridiculous as the Atlantis myth sounds, I've always found stories of mythical civilizations to be really interesting. Hypothetically, if there were in fact advanced civilizations present during the ice age, most of their remains would likely be underwater, and we've explored less than 5% of our oceans. Also, there was a drastic change in climate around 5,200 years ago, but I have no idea what caused it. Much of our early history has been lost.

About the age of the universe, I meant that once we have even more powerful telescopes that can probe even deeper into the cosmos, we may discover that the universe is larger than we currently think, and if it's significantly larger, that would mean it's likely older than 13.7 billion years old. Things like dark matter and dark energy are wild cards though because even the most brilliant physicists understand very little about said forces, hence the goofy names. The fact that the universe's expansion keeps accelerating is pretty confusing; you'd think inflation would have slowed down significantly after 13.7+ billion years. I don't really keep up with the latest discoveries, so I'm not sure if anything else regarding dark matter and/or dark energy has been discovered.


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Hundreds and especially thousands of years ago, "science" was defined very differently; it was nearly inseparable from religious/spiritual beliefs in many cases. Due to lack of technology, things like the 4 humors and geocentricity were considered scientific fact despite those "theories" not having any basis in actual fact.

Which is all irrelevant to the fact that they are fundamentally incomparable to the modern scientific method, and cannot be used for character assassination on modern science.

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There's so many things wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin.

You must also, of course, consider what constitutes advanced. In the ice age, just having motherfucking fire was state-of-the-art. A few wooden ships would make you gods among men.

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About the age of the universe, I meant that once we have even more powerful telescopes that can probe even deeper into the cosmos, we may discover that the universe is larger than we currently think, and if it's significantly larger, that would mean it's likely older than 13.7 billion years old.

We CAN'T probe deeper. The speed of light dictates how far we can see.

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Things like dark matter and dark energy are wild cards though because even the most brilliant physicists understand very little about said forces, hence the goofy names.

Noooo.... dark matter is called such because it's dark. You can't see it.
It's also not a force, and an unproven hypothesis. If it IS real, the force in question is gravity. If it's not real, then there's a large chunk of unaccounted-for matter in the universe.

Dark energy is named after dark matter, and is hypotheticaler. We've only recently observed the apparent acceleration of the universe's expansion, and even the nature of the acceleration is unclear(until recently, the expansion appeared to be DEcelerating). It's hard to propose a solid hypothesis to explain an effect when you aren't even sure what the effect Is yet.


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The fact that the universe's expansion keeps accelerating is pretty confusing; you'd think inflation would have slowed down significantly after 13.7+ billion years. I don't really keep up with the latest discoveries, so I'm not sure if anything else regarding dark matter and/or dark energy has been discovered.

The confusing part is that by our current understanding it WAS decelerating for most of the universe's history and THEN it sped back up again. Which flies in the face of the easiest explanation of the acceleration, that we're still in the early phases of the explosion.

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About the age of the universe, I meant that once we have even more powerful telescopes that can probe even deeper into the cosmos, we may discover that the universe is larger than we currently think, and if it's significantly larger, that would mean it's likely older than 13.7 billion years old.

No. We already know (not think, it's a known and proven fact) that the universe is freaking huge due to the expansion. We also know that we will only ever be able to see up to the age of the CMB - before that point in time, there was simply no light to see. No amount of telescope will change that. It's part of the expansive big bang theory that was proven years ago now.
The visible part is the famous ~14 billion years. The theory states that the CMB happened rather quickly (only 400kY) after the big bang initiated, so that sets the age of the universe we live in. Its size, however, is both crazy larger than that and entirely useless to know, since expansion makes the extremities of our visible space separate faster than light - nothing from beyond will ever reach here and vice versa.

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Things like dark matter and dark energy are wild cards though because even the most brilliant physicists understand very little about said forces, hence the goofy names.

The forces are understood, actually. There's not enough visible mass in the galaxies to make them spin at their measured rate, so there must be "invisible" mass that doesn't interact with us outside of gravitation. Since "invisible mass that doesn't interact with us outside of gravitation" is a fucking mouthful, and astronomers are nerds, they cut it to dark matter.
The alternative is dismantling half of our physics laws that work perfectly in the 14-billion-lightyears-fat bubble we live in and restart from scratch. Some people have tried that, mind you, to no avail so far.

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The fact that the universe's expansion keeps accelerating is pretty confusing; you'd think inflation would have slowed down significantly after 13.7+ billion years.

Something doesn't slow down on its own and gravity (dark matter still attracts stuff, no push) is so weaksauce at those scales it's laughable. Nah, the question is "what kind of force exists in a tiny point full of energy, and keeps pushing out a mostly empty bubble after billions of years" (which is, as a force that doesn't interact even with matter, the so called "dark energy").

Maybe the force isn't pushing from the inside, but pulling from the outside - in which case might as well give up on understanding how it even works.
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I concede the point about the age of the universe because I forgot to take the cosmic microwave background into account, and as you said, it's getting bigger right now anyway due to inflation. The universe's size seems almost infinite because it just keeps getting bigger and bigger every second. The only technology I can think of that would allow us to truly explore the universe outside of our solar system would be some sort of device that warps space itself, and I can't image how much energy something like that would require. Even if we had the technology to do so, using wormholes and/or "warp drives" sounds like it would be ridiculously dangerous. Then again, wormholes are still theoretical(I think). Black holes amaze me as well, although I know very little about physics in general. A star that collapsed in on itself that's such a massive object that it nearly ripped a hole in space-time itself is pretty fucking intense.

It's pretty cool that the Higgs boson(or something similar to it) was discovered using the Large Hardon Collider(jethuth chritht!), but I know nothing about particle physics. Have there been any big discoveries or changes in the standard model as a result of its discovery? The large hadron collider is a pretty amazing machine from a layman's perspective; I can't even imagine how tough it was to build such a huge particle accelerator with such precision. I remember hearing news about some helium explosion around a week after it was first activated. It's such an incredible feat of engineering, and who knows how big the next accelerator(s) will be.

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Which is all irrelevant to the fact that they are fundamentally incomparable to the modern scientific method, and cannot be used for character assassination on modern science.


Thanks, that was the exact point I was trying to make. What was considered hard science hundreds or thousands of years ago can't compare to the standards we have today, so you're just re-phrasing what I said earlier. I'm not trying to "assassinate" any theories. Despite earlier people not having the same scientific method/standards we have today, the 2 debunked theories(and many others) I mentioned earlier were considered absolute fact a long time ago. Of course they can't be called theories today; science is so different now than it was hundreds of years ago that it's even defined differently now.

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There's so many things wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin.

You must also, of course, consider what constitutes advanced. In the ice age, just having motherfucking fire was state-of-the-art. A few wooden ships would make you gods among men.


Just a few decades or so ago, we thought the Sumerians created the first civilization, so I think it's silly of you to dismiss the idea that humans could've created civilizations during the end of the ice age. Homo-sapiens have been around for 200,000 years, and we've explored such a tiny percentage of our oceans that it's ridiculous to rule out the possibility that there could be some truth in myths of incredibly old civilizations. Troy was once thought to be 100% mythical, but as we know now it's a real city. I'm not saying the Atlantis myth itself is true(that specific myth sounds ridiculous), but it's good to keep an open mind when it comes to things like the history of civilization because so much of our history has been lost. "Advanced" to me means agriculture, writing, math/advanced building skills, organized government/society, and of course the tools to build large structures. Also Gil, being condescending doesn't automatically validate your arguments. I'm talking about hypothetical, unknown stuff here, aka speculating.

I don't know nearly enough to argue with you about dark matter or energy. Dark matter probably is just a part of gravity we don't understand, and I've heard it described as the invisible scaffolding that holds everything together. I can't even begin to discuss dark energy; it confuses the shit out of me. I'm just an average layman when it comes to physics.


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Then again, wormholes are still theoretical(I think).

Hypothetical, not theoretical. That's one of the places where the incompatibilities between our large-scale and small-scale physics models cause trouble. At some point, you have to change from one set of equations to the other, and the math is all wrong when you do and the whole thing blows up in your face.


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Black holes amaze me as well, although I know very little about physics in general. A star that collapsed in on itself that's such a massive object that it nearly ripped a hole in space-time itself is pretty fucking intense.

Anything heavy enough that light itself can't escape from it is damn impressive.

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It's pretty cool that the Higgs boson(or something similar to it) was discovered using the Large Hardon Collider(jethuth chritht!), but I know nothing about particle physics. Have there been any big discoveries or changes in the standard model as a result of its discovery?

Actually, the Higgs was the last major test of the Standard Model. It was the final predicted particle, and it's observation completes the checklist.

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Thanks, that was the exact point I was trying to make. What was considered hard science hundreds or thousands of years ago can't compare to the standards we have today, so you're just re-phrasing what I said earlier. I'm not trying to "assassinate" any theories. Despite earlier people not having the same scientific method/standards we have today, the 2 debunked theories(and many others) I mentioned earlier were considered absolute fact a long time ago. Of course they can't be called theories today; science is so different now than it was hundreds of years ago that it's even defined differently now.

Must've misunderstood, because you seemed to be saying "since the things these greek dudes said and took on faith without testing were wildly wrong, maybe these modern things that have been tested to death are wildly wrong too, so why trust science?"


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There's so many things wrong with this statement I don't know where to begin.

You must also, of course, consider what constitutes advanced. In the ice age, just having motherfucking fire was state-of-the-art. A few wooden ships would make you gods among men.


Just a few decades or so ago, we thought the Sumerians created the first civilization, so I think it's silly of you to dismiss the idea that humans could've created civilizations during the end of the ice age.

Of COURSE they had civilizations. They had civilizations DURING the ice age.


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Homo-sapiens have been around for 200,000 years, and we've explored such a tiny percentage of our oceans that it's ridiculous to rule out the possibility that there could be some truth in myths of incredibly old civilizations. Troy was once thought to be 100% mythical, but as we know now it's a real city. I'm not saying the Atlantis myth itself is true(that specific myth sounds ridiculous), but it's good to keep an open mind when it comes to things like the history of civilization because so much of our history has been lost. "Advanced" to me means agriculture, writing, math/advanced building skills, organized government/society, and of course the tools to build large structures. Also Gil, being condescending doesn't automatically validate your arguments. I'm talking about hypothetical, unknown stuff here, aka speculating.


Well, for one thing, you're assuming all ocean bed is created equal. The coastal areas, where such civilizations would've been flooded out of, HAVE been quite extensively mapped.
No one had an advanced civilization right in the center of the ocean, thousands of miles from any major land masses.


Defining advanced helps a lot.
Typically, whenever Atlantis comes up, it's all "Man, we used to have antigrav devices we stole from aliens, I bet they dug it all up and hid it in Area 51" and then I want to kill everyone. So I defaulted to cynical and irritable.

Especially when we have stuff like Pompeii around.
A city so well-preserved by the volcanic ash that flooded it, we can even read the graffiti left on it's walls ... which mostly just proves that two millennia later, people are the same as ever. Seriously, there's even the 1st-century version of "for a good time, call" scrawled onto the walls, along with an awful lot of "Soandso was here" and "soandso + somesuch".



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I don't know nearly enough to argue with you about dark matter or energy. Dark matter probably is just a part of gravity we don't understand, and I've heard it described as the invisible scaffolding that holds everything together. I can't even begin to discuss dark energy; it confuses the shit out of me. I'm just an average layman when it comes to physics.

Dark energy confuses the shit out of everyone.
But we understand gravity well enough on the large scale that dark matter probably has to exist in some form. Which is why it's being taken so seriously, despite sounding absurd at first glance("So you're saying there's this shit that we can't observe in any way, and it's not only everywhere in space, it's actually MOST of the matter in space? Right, now pull the other leg."). I do not envy anyone trying to figure that one out.

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Anything heavy enough that light itself can't escape from it is damn impressive.

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[pedantry]massive, not heavy. "heavy" is undefined in the given frame of reference.[/pedantry]

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Anything heavy enough that light itself can't escape from it is damn impressive.

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[pedantry]massive, not heavy. "heavy" is undefined in the given frame of reference.[/pedantry]

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Gil, don't worry, I don't believe in ancient alien nonsense. I don't really think anything I said was so unclear it needing defining, but by underwater civilizations I meant areas that were formerly coastal areas that are now underwater due to the glaciers melting. We certainly have explored a lot more of those areas than, say, places that are 10,000+ feet down, but I seriously doubt we've found the last 12,000 year old civilization, and we may find ones that are even older, because it's not like the last ice age was snowball Earth; there were places where you could technically plant crops, although I'm not sure if we've even discovered evidence of humans employing agriculture during the IA. So no, I'm not talking about stupid ancient aliens bullshit. That show can be pretty funny though, because the people on it attribute literally EVERYTHING about human civilization that isn't 100% explained to aliens.

The great pyramid? Automatically 10,000+ years old instead of ~4,500 according to their obvious expertise and they were, of course, built with alien help. Of course, every other large ancient structure on Earth was built with alien help too; the funniest parts are how they spout that nonsense with absolute confidence, and one of the dudes has hilariously messed up hair. It looks like he uses a Tesla coil to style his hair. Jokes aside though, the pyramids(among other massive stone structures) are absolutely amazing in their precision, especially the interior. Just because we're not 100% sure how the Egyptians did it doesn't mean ALIENS! IT'S OBVIOUS! WAKE UP YOU SHEEPISH PLEBS! *shits pants*

The Higgs may be the final predicted particle, but there's a ton of work to do on gravity, which, especially on a quantum level, I can't even begin to wrap my mind around. What do you think of string theory? It sounds very philosophical and even religious to me, a layman, but I don't know enough about it to challenge its validity, and given that it predicts a ton of different dimensions, it's hard for me to believe it'll ever be possible to debunk OR prove it.

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Nope, I was making the same point you were. The standards were so low back then that their "science" doesn't even resemble ours and didn't have the high bar for evidence we have today.


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Anything heavy enough that light itself can't escape from it is damn impressive.

*twitch*

[pedantry]massive, not heavy. "heavy" is undefined in the given frame of reference.[/pedantry]

Whoa, Doc, that's heavy.


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What do you think of string theory? It sounds very philosophical and even religious to me, a layman, but I don't know enough about it to challenge its validity, and given that it predicts a ton of different dimensions, it's hard for me to believe it'll ever be possible to debunk OR prove it.

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As soon as it becomes relevant to something or they figure out a way to test a string hypothesis, I'll take interest.

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It seems a little too convenient that the strings are far too small for us to measure with today's technology(I'm guessing), but yeah I have no idea either. One thing is clear though *sticks hair in Tesla coil*: string theory was invented by ancient astronauts thousands of years ago and you filthy plebs will NEVER understand it unlike us chosen ones descended from the ancient aliens! You'll never realize how true the ancient astronaut theory is either, and I hope my ancient alien relatives fly a UFO up your tight twink ass tonight! It belongs to the ancient aliens anyway, because they OBVIOUSLY created humans although I don't have any evidence to show for my incredible theory; it's so obvious that I need not present any evidence to you filthy troglodytes!

See this crop "circle" of what looks like a huge boner from the sky to the plebs? It's CLEARLY a 50,000 year old depiction of a UFO. You just need to WAKE UP to realize it! *twists mustache*


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It seems a little too convenient that the strings are far too small for us to measure with today's technology(I'm guessing), but yeah I have no idea either. One thing is clear though *sticks hair in Tesla coil*: string theory was invented by ancient astronauts thousands of years ago and you filthy plebs will NEVER understand it unlike us chosen ones descended from the ancient aliens! You'll never realize how true the ancient astronaut theory is either, and I hope my ancient alien relatives fly a UFO up your tight twink ass tonight! It belongs to the ancient aliens anyway, because they OBVIOUSLY created humans although I don't have any evidence to show for my incredible theory; it's so obvious that I need not present any evidence to you filthy troglodytes!

See this crop "circle" of what looks like a huge boner from the sky to the plebs? It's CLEARLY a 50,000 year old depiction of a UFO. You just need to WAKE UP to realize it! *twists mustache*

You make an excellent point!

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9x is now my go-to SNES emulator too, and from PMing some mods a while back I've been told that while it's not dead, the new ZSNES is still in the very, very early stages of development. I hope it comes out in 3-4 years and makes all the other emus look like shit, but I'm almost as used to 9x now than I was to ZSNES before. BSNES/higan is deadly accurate, but on "accurate", higan is horrendously slow and if I have to put it on "performance" for it to run at full speed, I might as well just use 9x. I haven't tried earlier versions of BSNES, which I've heard are faster, but I see no reason to switch emus again.

Other than Von Daniken's(spelling) book, I notice that a LOT of that ancient alien bullshit is tied to the "new age" movement. Believers seem to use a lot of the pseudo-scientific crap about crystals, star gates, levitating stones with sound, the whole Earth grid bullshit etc. directly from new age goofiness that people probably thought of while on huge amounts of psychedelics, and I've been on quite a few psychedelic trips in the past so I know personally how weird and nonsensical your thoughts can be while on a trip(namely tryptamines like mushrooms). A STRONG psychedelic trip is basically like an incredibly weird, intense waking dream that you kinda know you're in, but it often feels VERY real because of the intense synesthesia, among other things. Drugs are the only explanation I can come up with regarding how people came up with all that new age bullshit. There's no rhyme or reason to it; it just seems like a bunch of goofy, random nonsense someone REALLY high made up.

However, we still don't completely know how ancient people built the pyramids.(and many other huge structures) I find the incredibly precise interior of the great pyramid even more impressive than the outer construction, because a lot of the large support stones that keep it structurally sound are 200-300 ton granite blocks, and the sarcophagus was carved from one huge granite block as well. The new agers/ancient alien bullshitters are just trying to manipulate people into believing their nonsense because there are still many things in the ancient world that we can't completely explain.

As far as the Atlantis myth goes, the Minoans are currently the best explanation. Santorini(sp) Island, before the volcano blew, was shaped like a circle, and the Minoans were definitely a maritime civilization that was more advanced than any known western civilization at the time. I think the Atlantis myth originally came from Egypt, but I'm not entirely sure. The only inconsistencies with Plato's story I know of are the age of the Minoan civilization, and the fact that it's not beyond Gibraltar(pillars of Hercules). Otherwise, it's a pretty good fit.

Who knows though? We've discovered civilizations like Gobekli Tepe that date back 11-12,000 years, so you never know what we may find in the future.


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EVERYTHING about human civilization that isn't 100% explained to aliens.

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And it's still better than the religion one.



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It seems a little too convenient that the strings are far too small for us to measure with today's technology(I'm guessing)

It goes farther - they loop in 8 dimensions we don't have access to. It would be like trying to measure a cylinder's length when you can only look at it from the end (where you can only see a circle). Technical impossibility, technical improvability.

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And it's still better than the religion one.


Respectfully disagree. I was an atheist for 27 years, and it's hard to explain what made me change my mind because it certainly didn't happen overnight or because of any one thing or experience. I'd rather not argue about religion because those types of discussions ALWAYS end up either turning into gigantic flame wars or they simply never end.

The dude in your image macro has some name that's fucking impossible to remember, so I just call him Tesla head, spooge hair or whatever. In that particular picture, he looks like he REALLY needs to take a shit, or maybe he's squeezin' out a big ole' fudge nugget in his pants during the interview? I mean, he's trying to convince people that every unexplained event in human history was caused by alien intervention, so it's not like soiling himself would make him more full of shit than he already is.

Also yeah, I mentioned the current impossibility of proving the existence of the extra dimensions in a previous post as well. There very well could be extra dimensions but will technology ever give us the chance to prove or disprove them? String Theory sounds almost like a new religion for physicists.


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some name that's fucking impossible to remember

Tsoukalos ain't that hard to pin down for a greek name, bro. Some of them are 10+ syllables.

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I will never be able to memorize that dude's name unless I make a massive effort to do so(I'm bad with names in general), so spooge hair or whatever will have to do. I don't even know how to pronounce that goofy bastard's name anyway. One of the funniest statements I remember him making on ancient aliens was when he speculated that the Egyptians built the pyramids as "resurrection machines" because the obvious ancient aliens that built them used to put themselves in hibernation during space flight, making it look like they were raising eachother from the dead when they woke up. A true young Einstein, and his theory will obviously be proven right. We, the chosen ones descended from the ancient aliens, don't need trivial things such as evidence that you plebs always demand of us awakened ones.


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Every time I'm looking at DVDs and BluRays, I move all the copies of the Stargate movie from sci-fi to documentary. Where they BELONG.

But not the TV series. It's pure sci-fi fluff with no basis in reality.

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