Secret of Evermore freezes

Cylet · Post by **Cylet** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:40 pm

Hi, I haven't found a solution for my problem: With ZSNES 1.51 the game "Secret of Evermore" freezes (when I change a map -> black screen and no reaction!). But it doesn't depend on the location or any events in the game. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Is there a patch for Secret of Evermore (german version) or a option I have to activate/deactivate? With the "SNES 9x"-emulator the games seems to work, but this emulator has not the great Kitchen Sync feature.

I've googled everywhere, but beside the 2 Player-Patch, I haven't found anything.

(I hope everyone understand my English

) - Greetz from Germany!

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:57 pm

Use NSRT to scan the ROM so we can determine it is a good dump.

Cylet · Post by **Cylet** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:34 pm

I wasn't easy to find NSRT^^.
But here is the result of the scan:

---------------------Internal ROM Info----------------------
File: Secret of Evermore-(de).smc
Name: SECRET OF EVERMORE
Company: Nintendo
Header: SWC
Bank: HiROM
Interleaved: None
SRAM: 64 Kb
Type: Normal + Batt
ROM: 24 Mb
Country: Germ/Aust/Switz
Video: PAL
ROM Speed: 120ns (FastROM)
Revision: 1.0
Checksum: Good 0x1971
Game Code: AEOD
---------------------------Hashes---------------------------
CRC32: 27F60E77
MD5: 0D131FF1D7896D6994B03FE2751D820B
--------------------------Database--------------------------
Name: Secret of Evermore
Country: Germany
Revision: 1.0
Port 1: Gamepad
Port 2: Gamepad
Genre 1: RPG
Genre 2: Action

What can I do now to make that game working (it's the only rom, that doesn't really work with ZSNES 1.51)?

EDIT: I don't know if it's important for that problem, but when the music changes in Secret of Evermore, the last second of the previous musictrack recurs before the new one starts.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:20 am

The "force NTSC" checkbox in the ROM loader is unchecked, right?

Cylet · Post by **Cylet** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:14 pm

Jepp, that's right. The rom runs on PAL (100 Hz with Kitchen Sync). Both, force PAL or NTSC are unchecked.

Am I the first with that problem? Could it be due to the PAL-version oder the Kitchen Sync? Or something with the sound-output (32000 Hz, gaussian interpol., low pass filter=off)?

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:15 am

Cylet wrote:Hi, I haven't found a solution for my problem: With ZSNES 1.51 the game "Secret of Evermore" freezes (when I change a map -> black screen and no reaction!). But it doesn't depend on the location or any events in the game. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Is there a patch for Secret of Evermore (german version) or a option I have to activate/deactivate? With the "SNES 9x"-emulator the games seems to work, but this emulator has not the great Kitchen Sync feature.

I've googled everywhere, but beside the 2 Player-Patch, I haven't found anything.

(I hope everyone understand my English ) - Greetz from Germany!

I have exactly the same problem, my version is the spanish one, I've tryed changing every option in sound and video prefs with no succes, the problem remains the same. I use ZSNES 1.51. Here is the NSRT dump:

---------------------Internal ROM Info----------------------
File: Secret of Evermore.sfc
Name: SECRET OF EVERMORE Company: Nintendo
Header: None Bank: HiROM
Interleaved: None SRAM: 64 Kb
Type: Normal + Batt ROM: 24 Mb
Country: Spain Video: PAL
ROM Speed: 120ns (FastROM) Revision: 1.0
Checksum: Good 0x87EC Game Code: AEOS
---------------------------Hashes---------------------------
CRC32: 7BFE934F
--------------------------Database--------------------------
Name: Secret of Evermore
Country: Spain Revision: 1.0
Port 1: Gamepad Port 2: Gamepad
Genre 1: RPG Genre 2: Action

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:16 am

wow, it's been forever since a good old fashion bug has come around.

paulguy · Post by **paulguy** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:38 am

Does the NTSC version have this problem? I heard some PAL versions are kinda shitty and buggy.

Cylet · Post by **Cylet** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:26 am

About the NTSC version I can't say anything, but I tried some PAL roms of that game. Always the same bug. Maybe something special in that rom, what ZSNES don't like^^?

BugMeNot · Post by **BugMeNot** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:13 pm

I can confirm this bug with both, German PAL version and US NTSC! Happens with Zsnes 1.51. Haven't tried older versions yet, but I remember it worked flawlessly in the past.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:48 pm

what did you compare the bug to? if not the original console then how can you be sure that what happens is a bug?

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:45 am

franpa wrote:what did you compare the bug to? if not the original console then how can you be sure that what happens is a bug?

I've tryed the ROM with Snes9x and SnesGT, it works flawlessly every time.
It's a ZSNES bug.

ShadowFX · Post by **ShadowFX** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:57 am

Deckard wrote:
franpa wrote:what did you compare the bug to? if not the original console then how can you be sure that what happens is a bug?
I've tryed the ROM with Snes9x and SnesGT, it works flawlessly every time.
It's a ZSNES bug.

Either compare with bsnes or the original console. Comparing with other (more or less) inaccurate emulators will not provide you with proper evidence of this bug.

Deckard · Post by **Deckard** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:23 am

ShadowFX wrote:
Deckard wrote:
franpa wrote:what did you compare the bug to? if not the original console then how can you be sure that what happens is a bug?
I've tryed the ROM with Snes9x and SnesGT, it works flawlessly every time.
It's a ZSNES bug.
Either compare with bsnes or the original console. Comparing with other (more or less) inaccurate emulators will not provide you with proper evidence of this bug.

The other (more or less) inaccuarate emulators DO NOT freeze at the exact same point where ZSNES freezes again and again.

Anyway, TESTED with bsnes v0.028, it worked fine. ZSNES keep freezing.

Hope you're happy now

Regards.

BugMeNot · Post by **BugMeNot** » Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:57 pm

I just played the PAL version of Evermore on zsnes 1.42 for several hours, no crashes/freezes at all.

So I guess it has to be a bug in Zsnes 1.51.

Tallgeese · Post by **Tallgeese** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:29 pm

It has happened on 1.42n for me. Needed to use 1.36.

Christ I cannot wait for 2.0 to have netplay...

Post by **grinvader** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:27 pm

I hope the new netplay will make your ass explode, in an awesome non-lethal way.

At least we'll do our best to make it so. We even hired captain Picard.

Post by **Agozer** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:33 pm

Make it so.

jez · Post by **jez** » Sun Jul 26, 2009 11:36 pm

Any progress on fixing this bug yet? I can confirm the random freezing happens for me too with the US version of SoE, ZSNES 1.51.

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:00 am

No news means no news.

Secretofevermor · Post by **Secretofevermor** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:00 pm

Hey, sorry for pushing this thread, but i have the same problem. blackscreen sometimes if i try to change the map. Any help? tried it with zsnes and snes9x. Please, help me

Post by **odditude** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:54 pm

grinvader wrote:No news means no news.

Deckard wrote: TESTED with bsnes v0.028, it worked fine.

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:01 pm

odditude wrote:
Deckard wrote:bsnes

huehuehuehuehuehue

no such thing

Post by **odditude** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:26 pm

i still want my z.nes with external toaster support and superfx for precise buttering calculations.

and i'm too lazy right now to circumvent the filter. ninja edit pls?

random ninja on duty #3547: sure thing bro

thx. best board ninjas ever here.

hubang · Post by **hubang** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:24 pm

I think I found a workaround. On my copy, the sound kept cutting out and it would freeze on a screen change.

So... under sound config, I changed Interpolation from Gaussian to none. It hasn't freezed since.

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