Choppy Speeds with ATI 9500 PRO radeon card...WHY?!?!

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:37 pm

Now this is odd, I can't get this to work, either, unless I use a command prompt.

yournamehere · Post by **yournamehere** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:55 pm

Sleepy wrote:hmm...i tried editing my shortcut to target:

"C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\VIDEO GAMES\Super Nintendo\ZSNESW.EXE -6"

but it obviously didnt work, since the actual ZSNESW.exe doesnt have an -6 at the end... How would i add that -6 to the executable file? i tried renaming it and it didnt work that way... it keeps saying "the name specified in the target box is not valid"

Parameters (such as the -6) must go *outside* the quotation marks.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:07 pm

Thanks a whole bunch, yournamehere. And I didn't mean this in a sarcastic way.

kevman · Post by **kevman** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:35 pm

Is there a -5 switch for PAL?

I'll add this issue to the FAQ.

Dmog · Post by **Dmog** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 11:49 pm

adventure_of_link wrote:
Dmog wrote:This should be included in the zsnes faq imo as this gets posted once in a while:

Q:"Help! Zsnes is choppy but it's running 60/60fps!"

A: Make sure your monitor is set to 60khz (or 50 for pal games) Run zsnes with the -6 switch
Isn't that supposed to be just 60Hz? 60kHz is.... too unreal.

Right

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:08 am

kevman wrote:Is there a -5 switch for PAL?

I'll add this issue to the FAQ.

No, I don't think there is.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:16 am

Besides, I don't think computer monitors can do 50Hz.

Ichinisan · Post by **Ichinisan** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:23 am

adventure_of_link wrote:Besides, I don't think computer monitors can do 50Hz.

Most of them can do 50hz just fine. The drivers usually do not enable that mode because flickering is so visible on a progressive-scan CRT, even at 60hz...

Dmog · Post by **Dmog** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 3:30 am

adventure_of_link wrote:Besides, I don't think computer monitors can do 50Hz.

That's what I thought until recently, A program called 'Powerstrip' showed me otherwise.

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 5:51 am

I've always known mine could do it, because on some really old driver I used the monitor would switch to 50 hz and 768x512 (or something) resolution when using my TV-out. It was awful, but probably because you're used to sitting a lot closer to a monitor than to a TV. Try sitting ten inches from your TV (if you're on PAL), you'll get a headache as well.

Bent · Post by **Bent** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:31 am

Hmm, I just tried that -6 switch on my parent's computer, so my little brothers can play faster than they currently can, and it doesn't work. zsnes just takes longer to start up, then the screen mode is still 85hz. Weird

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 7:58 pm

Ichinisan wrote:
adventure_of_link wrote:Besides, I don't think computer monitors can do 50Hz.
Most of them can do 50hz just fine. The drivers usually do not enable that mode because flickering is so visible on a progressive-scan CRT, even at 60hz...

Oh, ok, I was going to say... kilivipin made a thread asking about this.

yournamehere · Post by **yournamehere** » Sat Nov 20, 2004 8:36 pm

Bent wrote:Hmm, I just tried that -6 switch on my parent's computer, so my little brothers can play faster than they currently can, and it doesn't work. zsnes just takes longer to start up, then the screen mode is still 85hz. Weird

Make sure your display settings don't have a refresh rate override set somewhere.

Esturk · Post by **Esturk** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:56 am

I've always used a program called Refresh Force. What it does is change the refresh rate to 60Hz when running @ 640x480. I have to do this or I can never get smooth play in any emulator. This way I don't have to change my resolution and refresh, every time I want to play an emulator. It's all automatic.

Bent · Post by **Bent** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:25 am

yournamehere wrote:
Bent wrote:Hmm, I just tried that -6 switch on my parent's computer, so my little brothers can play faster than they currently can, and it doesn't work. zsnes just takes longer to start up, then the screen mode is still 85hz. Weird
Make sure your display settings don't have a refresh rate override set somewhere.

It was more of a statement than an ask for help. I only looked at it for about 1 minute. I know I don't have any refresh overrides set because I couldn't get them to work on that video card either. The computer is pretty old and junky, the video card that's in there right now is some old board that I threw in because nothing else would work.

Kagerato · Post by **Kagerato** » Sun Nov 21, 2004 7:22 pm

(Edit)Doh, I just noticed 'yournamehere' already mentioned this.(/Edit)

"C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\VIDEO GAMES\Super Nintendo\ZSNESW.EXE -6"

That, to me, appears to have an obvious problem. Enclosing the entire command line argument in quotes would suggest that there is only one item (the whole command). There should be an executable file, being passed a single argument. I would represent that was follows:

"C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\VIDEO GAMES\Super Nintendo\ZSNESW.EXE" -6

All I did was move the quote to encase the executable path.

If this change does nothing, then I don't understand how Windows handles shortcuts.

BTW, the quotes should only be necessary around paths that include spaces. If you were to have ZSNES somewhere else, the command would be shorter/simpler. For example:

D:\Program\ZSNES\zsnesw.exe -6

looks like something I would do.

frankbrodie · Post by **frankbrodie** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:45 pm

Windows requires two arguments if you are adding a switch to the .exe

I found this to my cost when trying for an hour to get ePSXe to use a -noauto switch for Chrono Cross.

So in my case, the command line to add -6 to ZSNES would go -

C:\Emulators\SNES\zsnesw.exe -6 zsnesw.exe

And that works. I tried it just now