No it is not illegal to use rooms, but it is illegal to destroy your own snes console. Now turn yourself into the police. The SNES police. What you did was a very stupid, bad, sinful and illegal thing to do! You ought to be ashamed, go play lamecast now.

You totally misunderstood my argument, Gil, and the whole "entitled gamer" argument is old, pretentious and makes you sound like some holier-than-thou hypocrite(oh wait). By snitch I meant you're either A: trying to get me to say something you can report or B: trying to manipulate me into getting myself in trouble for doing the same shit you're doing. It's not clear-cut snitching, but it's snitch-like behavior and you're being a pest. I generally don't like quoting myself, but:



I don't feel "entitled" to download roms, and the roms I do emulate are either:

A: Games I already own legit copies of

B: Abandonware(can only be bought used)

C: Japan-only games that can only be played in English through fan translations

It's often A AND B. Additionally, they're old ass games that nobody's making a profit on anymore. I claim no moral high ground and I flat out admit I DON'T have any moral high ground, so stop acting like a wannabe cop or politician by putting words in my mouth. You know this silly debate is gonna get thrown in my personal, lovely derail thread anyway. That's why I invited you to PM me with whatever beefs you have with me so we don't shit this thread up even more. I don't care what some random dude on the internet thinks of the way I use emulators, and you're hypocritical to give me or anyone else shit for downloading ROMs.

Then you shouldn't have ever tried to justify it in the first place.

If the cost of games is completely irrelevant to anything... DON'T MENTION IT.


I don't give ANYONE shit for downloading ROM images.

That said, I only keep mine for twenty-four hours.
*nods sagely*

Well, Suikoden 2 was a perfect example of what I meant by old, rare games being expensive & unavailable new or as a download. I own Suikoden 2, but I certainly can't blame anyone for downloading it because of its rarity and high price on the used market. It's abandonware, at least in the US. I have no idea why Konami hasn't released Suikoden 2 as a downloadable title because it is, despite its flawed translation, a masterpiece.

I looked up Xenoblade while thinking about rare games & noticed the price has dropped; maybe it was reprinted? It's still like $75+ new though so maybe Gamestop is selling used copies new or something. I've heard rumors about that practice, but I have no idea if it's true or not since I haven't been to GS is a long ass time. $75 is suspicious to me, but it could just be GS price gouging due to the game's rarity.(that's probably it) Either way, if I buy a Wii U for "X", I definitely wanna buy Xenoblade as well.

Really Gil, the only difference between us is that I'm too open about the way I use emulators.



and I'm Martin Luther King reincarnated

Naw. Game Stop is price-gouging because they're GameStop. It's not really related to rarity so much as demand.


Well, let me be the first of the new generation to congratulate you on your speech. It was pretty good.

probably because S1 didn't sell well enough on PSN to make S2 on PSN look like a good investment.

Well, S2(at least to most Suikoden fans) is the real gem of the series and it's very unfortunate that others won't be able to play it unless they either emulate it or pay retarded amounts for used copies. I've only played 1-3 so I have no opinions of 4-5(hear 5's good), but I really dig the sprite-based style of 1-2, namely 2. It's one of those series that varies from the typical "save the world from some satan wannabe" stories and while still fantastical, I like how the series deals with regional conflicts.

Konami should've released both 1 AND 2 at the same time because playing 1 followed by 2 is really the only way to play those games. 1 is a good solid game, but 2 is an incredible game with tons of little details plus a really fucking good villain. 3 kinda turned me off, probably because 2 was so fucking hard to top.

i know.

i'm also vocal enough about it that my SO replaced my long-since-stolen copy of S2 with a damn-near mint-condition one for Christmas. (she also got remarkably lucky on the eBay auction, and spent a hell of a lot less than I ever expected to find it for, woo!)

I'm never gonna sell my copy, but my S2 box is lost somewhere in my old closet at my parents' house. I lost it years ago but it's almost definitely stashed away somewhere. At least the disc itself works really well.

Personally, I'm happier playing an emulated Chrono Trigger on my phone than the version ported to Android itself. Just seems like an overall better experience, despite having to use a controller or full on-screen SNES controls.

As for Mystic Quest... I just don't know what to say about that. I don't think SE wants to remember that game

By the way... glad to see you're still alive and kicking Truth. Was just over at the pSX forums reminiscing about the old days, figured I'd make a stop over here and see how ZSNES is doing while I'm at it. And now I have yet another reason to be happy about sticking to Windows 7...

Personally, the only ways to play Chrono Trigger are to play the SNES version on a tube, play the DS version(emulated or legit) or my favorite, the Doctor L retranslation patch that cleans up & localizes the awkward Chrono Compendium retrans. Doctor L's overhaul of the CC hack is significantly better than the DS retrans in my personal opinion, plus the DS port has a few sound issues(Lavos' scream is horribly compressed for example). The DS version is pretty good for a port though, much better than the slowdown fest that is FF6 Advance.

I'd feel dirty playing CT on a phone

No flame war?

After all that proclaiming and almost insulting each other?

You just reasonably talk about something else?

What has the Internet become? A place of civility and friendship?

Oh well.

I also prefer playing videogames as close as possible to their original source. Although there are exceptions that look and feel better when ported.

Pretty sure the answer is yes. Shouldn't be an issue.

The oldest PC I was able to RUN ZSNES on and have 60fps:

• Intel Pentium 3 866 MHz
• 512 MB PC133 SDRAM (2x 256MB)
• ATI Radeon 9800 SE 128MB AGP 4x/8x
• Mobo was a Gateway OEM of an Intel D815EEA1
• Windows 2000 Pro 32bit

I laughed to no end at this!! XDD

When we find some time we are going to release an update with OpenGL so you can run it again with "full performance"

Updated post to include a link to dgVoodoo2 as a possible option, got to have that snow effect menu nostalgia.

Hey a new title for those who have no curiosity.