No Sound with DOS 7.1 and ZSnes 1.42

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:31 am

oh wtf dead!!!!that picture is so perverted,I should certainly hope it wasn't you who took the time to draw that.
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SquareHead · Post by **SquareHead** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:55 am

Controlled Force wrote:oh wtf dead!!!!that picture is so perverted,I should certainly hope it wasn't you who took the time to draw that.

That was quite distubing. I dont think I'll look at KFC the same way again. **shudder**

But, whoever had drawn that sure has talent. Best I ever could do was stick figures.

Esturk · Post by **Esturk** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:22 am

The best way to play any DOS game is with an ISA sound card. Preferably a Sound Blaster 16 or similiar such as Awe64. I've always gotten them to work in DOS with the simple SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 P330 T6 command. Even some old ESS cards being Sound Blaster compatible work perfect as well. PCI sound cards are a little bit different though.. Usually need drivers.

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:47 am

Esturk wrote:The best way to play any DOS game is with an ISA sound card. Preferably a Sound Blaster 16 or similiar such as Awe64. I've always gotten them to work in DOS with the simple SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 P330 T6 command. Even some old ESS cards being Sound Blaster compatible work perfect as well. PCI sound cards are a little bit different though.. Usually need drivers.

I must try that out. I have a shitty ESS intefrated soundcard. Could never get sound to work in dos.
Or a mouse either.

Bluestreak · Post by **Bluestreak** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:55 am

I have tried the DOS version recently, and I got no sound either, but all I had to do was click the "Enable sound" in the Options >Sound window, could it be as simple as that perhaps?

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:29 am

Controlled Force wrote:How can it emulate a soundcard if you don't have 1 installed?

*facekeyb*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulation

Post by **Nach** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:51 am

creaothceann wrote:
Controlled Force wrote:How can it emulate a soundcard if you don't have 1 installed?
*facekeyb*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emulation

Nah, it's more obvious than that.

How can we emulate an SNES if you don't have one installed?

Post by **Agozer** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:37 pm

Yay, my old SoundBlaster 16 VibraX still works like a charm.

@Controlled Force: You are allowed to have a brain here.

Kernel · Post by **Kernel** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:03 pm

ipher wrote:When i go back home for the summer ill try it on my old DOS machine since i don't see ANYTHING wrong with your setup.

Thank you!

Bluestreak wrote: I have tried the DOS version recently, and I got no sound either, but all I had to do was click the "Enable sound" in the Options >Sound window, could it be as simple as that perhaps?

I have enabled this option.

Kernel · Post by **Kernel** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 10:07 pm

Esturk wrote:The best way to play any DOS game is with an ISA sound card. Preferably a Sound Blaster 16 or similiar such as Awe64. I've always gotten them to work in DOS with the simple SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 P330 T6 command. Even some old ESS cards being Sound Blaster compatible work perfect as well. PCI sound cards are a little bit different though.. Usually need drivers.

Ok, this is the best way, but nowadays I can't find motherboards with ISA slots...(the fastest CPU supported by an ISA moytherboard is an AMD 1300MHz thunderbird and unfortunately I can't find it anymore). And I don't understand why this is the only emulator/program that have those issues...

Esturk · Post by **Esturk** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:20 am

My point is that if you have a computer new enough that it doesn't have any ISA slots... Then I see no reason to use the Zsnes DOS over the Windows version. However you have special requirements.. your monitor and whatnot so I understand that.

And no, I don't understand why it doesn't work either. I see nothing wrong with your setup.

Kernel · Post by **Kernel** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:41 pm

Esturk wrote:My point is that if you have a computer new enough that it doesn't have any ISA slots... Then I see no reason to use the Zsnes DOS over the Windows version. However you have special requirements.. your monitor and whatnot so I understand that.

And no, I don't understand why it doesn't work either. I see nothing wrong with your setup.

I understand your doubts.
The reason is that I use ZSNES on an old arcade cabinet (15KHz NTSC low resoulution arcade monitor), and I have to use the ArcadeOS DOS program http://www.arcadeos.com to "drive" ZSNES at 15KHz (instead of 31KHz VGA).

However before connecting the PC to the arcade monitor, and before using ArcadeOS I have tried all the setup on a standard VGA monitor. All is working right, but that ZSNES sound issue remains...

LobStar · Post by **LobStar** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:30 pm

Ive got a DOS setup @ home. Not sure which version I got on there, DreamSNES has been the emu I have the most experience with.

Stats are:
33MHZ
DOS 7.X
Soundblaster 16 ISA.

You should see if your card's DOS drivers can go into a sound blaster pro emulation mode. That's always been a good failsafe for me if I have problems. But I will definatly look at it tonight for you.

Kernel · Post by **Kernel** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:14 am

LobStar wrote:Ive got a DOS setup @ home. Not sure which version I got on there, DreamSNES has been the emu I have the most experience with.

Stats are:
33MHZ
DOS 7.X
Soundblaster 16 ISA.

You should see if your card's DOS drivers can go into a sound blaster pro emulation mode. That's always been a good failsafe for me if I have problems. But I will definatly look at it tonight for you.

Thank you!

Yod@ · Post by **Yod@** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:59 am

Hey Kernel - just to let you know you're not the only one having this problem.
I'm using a SBLive card, I get audio in ArcadeOS, AdvanceMAME, AdvanceMESS and all the other emus - but no sound at all from ZSNES.

It's driving me mad!

LobStar · Post by **LobStar** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:05 pm

Scratch that, wont be able to check until tommrow night. Powers out in the basement because we're remodeling :/

Yod@ · Post by **Yod@** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:06 am

I managed to finally get the audio working - but I had to take out my SBLive card and use a different one (a PCI Fortemedia FM801-AS which I had lying about). I also had to juggle the device IRQs around quite a bit - I had to get the PCI card on IRQ7, and I had to disable the printer port (which was on IRQ7).
The environmental settings I'm using are A220 I7 D1 T4.

I had another go at getting it to work with my SBLive, but I just can't seem to find any settings which are compatible.

LobStar · Post by **LobStar** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:29 am

sound works for me
irq 5
dma 1
port 220

Kernel · Post by **Kernel** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:12 pm

Yod@ wrote:I managed to finally get the audio working - but I had to take out my SBLive card and use a different one (a PCI Fortemedia FM801-AS which I had lying about). I also had to juggle the device IRQs around quite a bit - I had to get the PCI card on IRQ7, and I had to disable the printer port (which was on IRQ7).
The environmental settings I'm using are A220 I7 D1 T4.

I had another go at getting it to work with my SBLive, but I just can't seem to find any settings which are compatible.

It seems that zsnes doesn't like Creative PCI soundcards...
I have a Fortemedia FM801-AU hope it works...

Post by **grinvader** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:53 pm

Kernel wrote:It seems that zsnes doesn't like Creative PCI soundcards...

It never had any trouble with mine, windows or sdl.

Kernel · Post by **Kernel** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:17 pm

grinvader wrote:
Kernel wrote:It seems that zsnes doesn't like Creative PCI soundcards...
It never had any trouble with mine, windows or sdl.

You are right.
The correct sentence is:
"It seems that DOS zsnes version doesn't like Creative PCI soundcards..."

Post by **grinvader** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:15 am

Kernel wrote:
grinvader wrote:
Kernel wrote:It seems that zsnes doesn't like Creative PCI soundcards...
It never had any trouble with mine, windows or sdl.
You are right.
The correct sentence is:
"It seems that DOS zsnes version doesn't like Creative PCI soundcards..."

Well then, let me elaborate - I never had any trouble for ZSNES, from the old <0.7 versions to now.
Of course, the fact that my card has a legacy mode for DOS apps while in win98 might be the cause...

Kernel · Post by **Kernel** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:13 am

Kernel wrote:
Yod@ wrote:I managed to finally get the audio working - but I had to take out my SBLive card and use a different one (a PCI Fortemedia FM801-AS which I had lying about). I also had to juggle the device IRQs around quite a bit - I had to get the PCI card on IRQ7, and I had to disable the printer port (which was on IRQ7).
The environmental settings I'm using are A220 I7 D1 T4.

I had another go at getting it to work with my SBLive, but I just can't seem to find any settings which are compatible.
It seems that zsnes doesn't like Creative PCI soundcards...
I have a Fortemedia FM801-AU hope it works...

Today I've tryed my Fortemedia FM801-AU.
Installed with no problems with settings: A220 I7 D1 T4

DOSMAME ---> Sound Works!
ADVMAME ---> Sound Works!
DosAMP ---> Sound Works!
Kgen98 ---> Sound Works!
Gencyst ---> Sound Works!
ArcadeOS ---> Sound Works!
ZSNES DOS 1.46 ---> Sound doesn't work

Also this time I have the same result as with the other sound cards...
How can it be possible with 3 different sound card type and only with Zsnes?
I'm so sad...

Yod@ · Post by **Yod@** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:56 pm

Did you try disabling the printer port in the BIOS? I had to do that to get mine working.

The real killer is that the FM801 outputs really scratchy, shitty quality audio.
I couldn't put up with it for more than a day, so I spent a few days setting up ArcadeOS/AdvanceMAME/ZSnes to work in Windows. Problem is, performance in Windows is slightly poorer than the DOS version - the DOS version was perfectly smooth for me, but the Windows one has little pauses every now and then. Very annoying.

I'm gonna have to go back to DOS again, I think.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:03 pm

Kernel wrote:ZSNES DOS 1.46 ---> Sound doesn't work

Probably because it doesn't exist.