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ZZTFive
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Serious slowdown problems.

Post by ZZTFive »

I'm running 32-bit Windows Vista Home Premium, and ZSNES version 1.51. Problem is, every time I start up ZSNES, it slows down my whole system, and takes at least 1 minute to start up.

This is even happening the first time I run the program. What's the deal? I don't have this problem with ANY other program on this computer.

Edit: It doesn't happen when I'm actually in a game, just when I'm in the GUI.

ZSNES is also very slow to start and close, and it freezes for a few seconds when I bring the cursor in or out of the window as well, or alt-tab back to it. Any ideas?

The problem SEEMS to be with the GUI, in my opinion.
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Post by odditude »

No such issues on Vista Ultimate 32-bit.
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ZZTFive: Mind posting some system specs? ZSNES 1.51 runs fine under 32-bit Windows Vista Home Premium.
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Okay.

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Okay, then, here's a dxdiag...

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System Information
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Time of this report: 3/3/2008, 09:14:10
       Machine name: HAJIME
   Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.071009-1548)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
       System Model: HP Pavilion dv6700 Notebook PC    
               BIOS: Ver 1.00PARTTBL
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5450  @ 1.66GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.7GHz
             Memory: 3070MB RAM
          Page File: 2250MB used, 4075MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 6.00.6000.16386 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS 
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 8400M GS
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0427&SUBSYS_30CC103C&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 1520 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 241 MB
    Shared Memory: 1279 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
      Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll
   Driver Version: 7.15.0011.5665 (English)
      DDI Version: 9Ex
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 9/19/2007 14:05:00, 4943872 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: 
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4767-11CF-AD65-C71001C2CA35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0427
        SubSys ID: 0x30CC103C
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
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     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0268&SUBSYS_103C30CC&REV_1000
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKVHDA.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5470 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 8/22/2007 12:44:18, 1950552 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0268&SUBSYS_103C30CC&REV_1000
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: RTKVHDA.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5470 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 8/22/2007 12:44:18, 1950552 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Any ideas?
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Post by I.S.T. »

WTF? That should be able to pwn zsnes so hard it begs for more.
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Post by Deathlike2 »

It is most likely powersaving that is confused. Disable it aka use performance settings over power saving settings.
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Post by ZZTFive »

I just set the power options to High Performance. No dice, program is still pausing whenever I bring the mouse cursor in and out of the window or alt-tab to and from it.
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Post by franpa »

update your video drivers? 169.21? or does the 8400M GS not work with them?

nvidia doesnt list the 8400M GS.
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Post by odditude »

franpa wrote:update your video drivers? 169.21? or does the 8400M GS not work with them?

nvidia doesnt list the 8400M GS.
NVIDIA doesn't offer laptop drivers on their site. They recommend you get any driver updates from the laptop manufacturer.
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Post by meowface »

The website seems down atm, but you can download modded nvidia drivers to work with laptop graphic cards at http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/
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Post by ZZTFive »

I think it might have something to do with the HP Pavilion's "QuickPlay" function. It keeps popping up over my games and interrupting me, and one time after I got it to close by accident, ZSNES worked fine. I've been looking for a way to turn it off permanently for weeks, but no one has offered a solution.

Any advice on that?
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Post by meowface »

Try uninstalling the Hp quickplay driver package from Vista's remove programs thingy in Control Panel (I hate how they moved/renamed that in Vista, so annoying trying to look for it the first time)
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Post by ZZTFive »

meowface wrote:Try uninstalling the Hp quickplay driver package from Vista's remove programs thingy in Control Panel (I hate how they moved/renamed that in Vista, so annoying trying to look for it the first time)
I don't know how good of an idea that would be. HP has advised me that completely uninstalling QuickPlay would pretty much not let my laptop start up. I don't think I want to uninstall it, just disable it from running somehow AFTER it lets my laptop start up.
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Post by sweener2001 »

BS on that.
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Post by odditude »

Eh, QuickPlay might use a modified bootloader. Blowing that out would probably require use of whatever passes for fixboot in Vista.
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Post by meowface »

ZZTFive wrote:
meowface wrote:Try uninstalling the Hp quickplay driver package from Vista's remove programs thingy in Control Panel (I hate how they moved/renamed that in Vista, so annoying trying to look for it the first time)
I don't know how good of an idea that would be. HP has advised me that completely uninstalling QuickPlay would pretty much not let my laptop start up. I don't think I want to uninstall it, just disable it from running somehow AFTER it lets my laptop start up.
Err, if it didn't let you boot up your pc after you uninstalled it, then simply formatting the laptop will also turn your laptop into a huge paperweight.

I highly doubt that is the case, or else thered be a huge fuss on lots of sites saying how your laptop model turned into a brick after a user tried to get rid of the crapheap that is Vista and tried to install XP

This is why I hate laptops that come with OS'es preloaded, they bundle all their shit in..
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Post by Y~K »

I reason for the slowdown may be zsnes lack of support for dual core CPUs.
See this thread. franpa has posted a nice workaround this issue, that worked for me. :)
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Post by I.S.T. »

My Core 2 Duo based Pentium Dual-Core can run zsnes 1.51 just fine... o_O
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Post by franpa »

so can mine o_O lol i forgot i made that post :D and was probably before i got a true multi-core processor.
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Post by Y~K »

Maybe he should try to set the affinity to 1 cpu and see if that solves the issue.
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Post by ZZTFive »

Nope, just tried the affinity thing. My computer -still- pauses whenever I move the mouse cursor in or out of the ZSNES window, or alt-tab to or from it, whenever it's in the GUI.

Strangely enough, when it's actually running a game, it works fine; I'm only having problems with the GUI.
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Post by ZZTFive »

Bleh.
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Post by pagefault »

Hi tech support here,

I would try to disable Aero, you can do this in the next version in the options but for now if you right click the EXE and click properties then on the compatibility tab, click disable desktop composition and then click OK tell me if that helps.
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Post by ZZTFive »

I actually already have Aero off... Nonetheless, I gave your solution a try to see if it would work.

No joy. :(
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Post by badinsults »

My HP laptop has the same problem as you. Similar system except I have a Turion processor. I haven't found a solution yet.
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