Get rid of Blurr

cmf0931 · Post by **cmf0931** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:20 pm

When I load a Rom and then walk around the background gets slightly burry then returns when i stop I have enabled several things, when Vsync is activated it doesnt jump aound but it is still blurry please help as this is killing my eyes

Post by **Agozer** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:47 pm

Please post your system specs, the game in question + NSRT output regarding that rom and the ZSNES version you are using.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:42 pm

Need lots more info like what Agozer said.

Dmog · Post by **Dmog** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:44 pm

cmf0931 wrote:When I load a Rom and then walk around the background gets slightly burry then returns when i stop I have enabled several things, when Vsync is activated it doesnt jump aound but it is still blurry please help as this is killing my eyes

Some gfx card automaticaly add an annoying blur during hardware strech. First make sure you have interpolation turned off in zsnes. If you still see the blur, try a DR mode instead of DS.

What gfx card do you have?

Edit: Also, make sure your monitor's refresh rate matches the game's fps! (this problem pop out frequently. It's now in the official faq) 60hz for ntsc games and 50hz for pal.

Jdurg · Post by **Jdurg** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:16 am

The refresh rate of the monitor is a big one that I think a lot of people tend to miss. I never bothered changing my monitor's refresh rate to 60 Hz until just recently after reading a post here at the fourms. I always wondered why some games would stutter and just not seem 'smooth' even though my computer could easily handle them. Then I made sure that my monitor was set to 60Hz and everything is silky smooth. Made a huge difference in a bunch of games.

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:46 am

perhaps he has an LCD monitor that doesn't scan fast enough. mine is kinda old and does it a little bit.

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:14 am

Alternatively, you might want to disable DirectDraw Acceleration from Dxdiag and see if that helps.

Dead · Post by **Dead** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:41 am

When I load a Rom and then walk around the background gets slightly burry then returns when i stop I have enabled several things, when Vsync is activated it doesnt jump aound but it is still blurry please help as this is killing my eyes

When I enable vsync or triple buffering, and automatic frameskip to zero, and my monitor's refresh rate is 120Hz, I see a "blur" effect when the screen is scrolled. Maybe this is what you are experiencing?[/quote]

cmf0931 · Post by **cmf0931** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:49 pm

I have a 1.2 AMD, 512 Ram, Nvidia Geforce 3 and running win xp as for zsnes (btw i'm too stupid to learn the name of the emulator) a have version 1.40, I do have a flat screen LCD monitor running at 60 htz, I have this problem running most all games when scrolling (moving) around the game

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:51 pm

cmf0931 wrote:I do have a flat screen LCD monitor running at 60 htz, I have this problem running most all games when scrolling (moving) around the game

Then it's your monitor and there's really nothing you can do except for buying a new one. Sorry.

Stifu · Post by **Stifu** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:59 pm

Can't you raise the 60 Hz thing ?
You should be able to change that in your screen settings...

cmf0931 · Post by **cmf0931** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:09 pm

I can change the Htz, also its a new monitor plus i have the same blurr effect when moving around in games on my laptop and it is brand new as well. I wil try changing the htz around and see what that does

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:15 pm

Stifu wrote:Can't you raise the 60 Hz thing ?

The refresh rate doesn't matter in this case. The value you want to look at is the response time of your monitor; the lower the better. For games you really want a 16ms response time or better.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:18 pm

Isn't the blur effect something to do with the Geforce card?

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:33 pm

snkcube wrote:Isn't the blur effect something to do with the Geforce card?

Yeah, and it's in ATI Radeons too.

Jdurg · Post by **Jdurg** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:36 pm

If he's saying that it happens on his laptop too, then it is most certainly a response time issue. Laptop LCDs are notoriously bad with blurring on moving objects, and depending on the make of the LCD the same problem could be occuring. As mentioned earlier, anything greater than 16ms for response time will result in some noticeable artifacts (ghosting, blurring) on moving objects. My Dell 2001FP has a response time of 16ms, and after having the resolution at 800x600 @ 60 Hz, everything was silky smooth. So it does sound like it's a monitor problem that can't be 'fixed'.

cmf0931 · Post by **cmf0931** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:38 pm

ok I have a radeon mobility 9600 pro in my laptop so is this something to do with the cards or is there something i can change like maybe the the response time

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:38 pm

I'm not sure about the response time on my LCD, but I get no artifacts (at least, I don't notice any).

Jdurg · Post by **Jdurg** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 8:41 pm

The response time of an LCD cannot be changed. It's a function of the hardware itself. That would be like trying to change the memory capacity of your RAM. The only way to do that is to buy a new stick. If you want a faster response time, you have to buy a monitor with a faster response time.

cmf0931 · Post by **cmf0931** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:16 pm

how do i find out what the response time is on my monitor's I have

Paul Bunyan · Post by **Paul Bunyan** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:22 pm

in XP go into control panel
go to appearance and themes
go to display
go to settings tab
click on advanced button below color
go to monitor

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:24 pm

Paul Bunyan wrote:in XP go into control panel
go to appearance and themes
go to display
go to settings tab
click on advanced button below color
go to monitor

That doesn't really give any info about an LCD screen's response time in ms, just Hz the current resolution uses.

Jdurg · Post by **Jdurg** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 2:38 am

If you post the brand and model of the LCD you have, we can tell you.

Neo Kaiser · Post by **Neo Kaiser** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:56 pm

Does he have the motion blurr option enabled?

Post by **Agozer** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:09 pm

Neo Kaiser wrote:Does he have the motion blurr option enabled?

In ZSNES? There is no such option in ZSNES, because it was taken out for being too buggy, as far as I knoow.

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