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ZSNES 1.53 Changelog

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Here are the changes for the upcoming ZSNES 1.53MR version that should be released soon once I get more feedback from internal testers. This is not a replacement for 2.0. This list is subject to change.

- Removed DirectDraw and replaced it with OpenGL renderer (you will need to reconfigure your video settings if you have an existing config file)
- Netplay is much better now with fewer desyncs and movie playback is much more reliable but still experimental (1.54 should have most of this ironed out)
- Numerous emulation fixes have been incorporated to provide better compatibility and reliablity of the emulator.
- The exploit has been patched.ynt to give better compatibility.
- New S-DSP/SPC core (thanks blargg!)
- SA-1 is probably going to remain unreliable in this release.
- Lots of patches to the GUI and graphics engine to fix rendering problems.
- Linux support should be better now under modern 64-bit systems.
- MS-DOS support has been completely removed (sorry guys).
- Lots of stuff I have forgotten.

ETA for release is this weekend hopefully but right now there is a regression with some popular games so would rather that stuff get fixed.

Again it's a free country so you can use any emulator you want, this is just fanservice.

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Re: ZSNES 1.53 Changelog

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pagefault wrote:- MS-DOS support has been completely removed (sorry guys).

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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OpenGL huh? I've messed around with writing GLSL shaders for other emulators, though I have no idea how big of a deal it would be to implement support for it.
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What about Direct3D rendering?
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Re: ZSNES 1.53 Changelog

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No time to do Direct3D and 2.0 uses EGL anyway.
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Re: ZSNES 1.53 Changelog

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Gil_Hamilton wrote:
pagefault wrote:- MS-DOS support has been completely removed (sorry guys).

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!


aah-hahahaha! looks like 1.51 will be the last version to support MSDOS. :)
I wonder if the upcoming 1.53 release will still work under win95, 98 & me. or will it require using at least windows 2000/xp?
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What the, how did I miss this thread? :mrgreen: Hope Zsnes 1.53 will be out soon 8)
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Why exactly does 1.51 have disabled netplay?
Also some people might go to hell now you took off MS-DOS support.
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Termingamer2-JD wrote:Why exactly does 1.51 have disabled netplay?
Also some people might go to hell now you took off MS-DOS support.
Because netplay was completely broken on a fundamental level and needed a complete ground-up rewrite.
If i recall, the code for it was actually removed.
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Termingamer2-JD wrote:Why exactly does 1.51 have disabled netplay?
Also some people might go to hell now you took off MS-DOS support.


People need to move on from MS-DOS anyways, I mean sure it's a quirky OS and all that, and has nostalgia, but let's be honest here; MS-DOS is barely used anymore and hardly useful for new apps.
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nintendo_nerd wrote:
Termingamer2-JD wrote:Why exactly does 1.51 have disabled netplay?
Also some people might go to hell now you took off MS-DOS support.


People need to move on from MS-DOS anyways, I mean sure it's a quirky OS and all that, and has nostalgia, but let's be honest here; MS-DOS is barely used anymore and hardly useful for new apps.

ZSNES is not a new app, though. :P
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Gil_Hamilton wrote:
nintendo_nerd wrote:
Termingamer2-JD wrote:Why exactly does 1.51 have disabled netplay?
Also some people might go to hell now you took off MS-DOS support.


People need to move on from MS-DOS anyways, I mean sure it's a quirky OS and all that, and has nostalgia, but let's be honest here; MS-DOS is barely used anymore and hardly useful for new apps.

ZSNES is not a new app, though. :P



Er, either way, people do need to move on from DOS :mrgreen: I just woke up, sorry about that :lol: I look forward to this.
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MS-DOS 4 LYFE
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Gil_Hamilton wrote:MS-DOS 4 LYFE


I'll simply use DOSBox for all my DOS needs ;O;
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DOSbox is a poor man's crutch.
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Gil_Hamilton wrote:DOSbox is a poor man's crutch.


True, but we can thank Microsoft for fucking us over by removing all but command prompt in newer OSes -_- That being said, I do miss MS-DOS, I remember learning it extensive back in sixth grade, our teacher back then was freaking awesome. :mrgreen:
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nintendo_nerd wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:DOSbox is a poor man's crutch.


True, but we can thank Microsoft for fucking us over by removing all but command prompt in newer OSes -_-

Command prompt is still there. It's just not useful for DOS gaming because the underlying kernel and level of hardware access is completely different. Basically, because it's a completely different OS.
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Gil_Hamilton wrote:
nintendo_nerd wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:DOSbox is a poor man's crutch.


True, but we can thank Microsoft for fucking us over by removing all but command prompt in newer OSes -_-

Command prompt is still there. It's just not useful for DOS gaming because the underlying kernel and level of hardware access is completely different. Basically, because it's a completely different OS.


Yup, it's a stripped down MS-DOS pretty much, I still remember some of what I learned then, surprising as that was what, 18 years ago?
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nintendo_nerd wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:
nintendo_nerd wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:DOSbox is a poor man's crutch.


True, but we can thank Microsoft for fucking us over by removing all but command prompt in newer OSes -_-

Command prompt is still there. It's just not useful for DOS gaming because the underlying kernel and level of hardware access is completely different. Basically, because it's a completely different OS.


Yup, it's a stripped down MS-DOS pretty much, I still remember some of what I learned then, surprising as that was what, 18 years ago?

It's not a stripped-down MS-DOS, it's the same command interpreter on an almost completely unrelated OS.

Saying it's a stripped-down MS-DOS is like saying the original Apple Macintosh is a stripped-down Xerox STAR. There's some related history and superficial similarities on the surface, but they're completely different things.
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Gil_Hamilton wrote:It's not a stripped-down MS-DOS, it's the same command interpreter on an almost completely unrelated OS.

Saying it's a stripped-down MS-DOS is like saying the original Apple Macintosh is a stripped-down Xerox STAR. There's some related history and superficial similarities on the surface, but they're completely different things.


Heh, shows what I know, sorry about that :mrgreen: I do know that both Mac OS and Linux are both Unix based, but I've only used Linux and I seem to have an aversion to Apple for various reasons.
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nintendo_nerd wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:It's not a stripped-down MS-DOS, it's the same command interpreter on an almost completely unrelated OS.

Saying it's a stripped-down MS-DOS is like saying the original Apple Macintosh is a stripped-down Xerox STAR. There's some related history and superficial similarities on the surface, but they're completely different things.


Heh, shows what I know, sorry about that :mrgreen: I do know that both Mac OS and Linux are both Unix based, but I've only used Linux and I seem to have an aversion to Apple for various reasons.

Both are also different unix clones, with OSX being based on FreeBSD rather than Lunix.

And I was speaking of the original Mac, not a modern one. When Apple made their own hardware, made their own software, and didn't run around marking up IBM clones and shitting up someone else's OS.
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Re: ZSNES 1.53 Changelog

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any eta?

any update on 1.53?

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Efften wrote:any eta?

any update on 1.53?

mod edit: merged multiple posts.

it's not done yet. have patience.
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Some people just can't take 8 years of development for a new version which isn't WIP.
(or how many years it's been)
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Termingamer2-JD wrote:Some people just can't take 8 years of development for a new version which isn't WIP.
(or how many years it's been)

that's their problem.

remember, pagefault has Real Life (TM) to deal with; zsnes development is a diversion, a hobby at best. the same goes for Nach, grinvader, and the other devs who so generously share the fruit of their time and effort with others.
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