Snes controller progress:

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:43 pm

FirebrandX wrote:Anyway, I'm hoping Grin can set me up with some snapshots of his pad.

I have reserved a photo shooting session for tomorrow at about this hour.

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:11 pm

another factor is our monitors, I just got home and at school it looked slightly lighter, and at home slightly darker. for those of you who are judging shades, make sure to compare photos of the real thing ON THE SAME MONITOR that you look at this recreation.

Verdauga Greeneyes · Post by **Verdauga Greeneyes** » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:21 pm

Wow, this has improved a lot since the last time I checked. I have no doubt now that it will be for all intents and purposes perfect when you're done with it. Excellent job.

Edit: by the way, do you intend to model the internals? I'd be happy to take my pad apart and upload some pictures.

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:32 am

Another update. The new pic is my first test with Mental Ray rendering. I simulated a white desktop with lamp. I also changed the material on the color buttons to a solution designed specifically for plastics, so they should look a little more realistic.

For the perspective shot on the white desk, I rotated the camera slightly upward so you can see just a litte bit of the underside depth. This causes the top shoulder buttons to be a little more obstructed from view, but I felt the tradeoff was worth it for the depth value.

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:14 am

the grey plastics and rubber look much better with the lighting. The color buttons look a little diff but that could just be the kind of lighting and it would be that way in real life. Very nice, the dpad issues are completely resolved by the looks of it but I'm sure you'll double check when you get the real pad.

VERY nice. still looking at those color buttons.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:44 am

FirebrandX wrote:I'm in agreement with byuu in that the US controller sucks ass. I like to pretend the Euro controller is the official SNES one

:'(

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:50 am

my fav is the japanese one, the super nintendo font is kinda lame compared to the

nintendo
super famicom

one, but oh well. you can't win em all

FitzRoy · Post by **FitzRoy** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:02 am

That's pretty much an exact replica now. Very nice.

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
FirebrandX wrote:I'm in agreement with byuu in that the US controller sucks ass. I like to pretend the Euro controller is the official SNES one
:'(

He's right, you know. The American SNES was just a god-awful design, probably gave away at least a million sales to Sega just by being that ugly. And how is it that Europe got the better one? Those PAL weenies censored the "Ninja" out of "Ninja Turtles." They should have gotten the stupid boxy purple one with yellowing plastic.

Also, Famicom is a better name than "Nintendo Entertainment System," the long, generic piece of crap name that they gave us. Rumor has it that Nintendo wanted to call the Nintendo 64 the "Super Duper Nintendo Entertainment System," but it was so fucking long at that point that the stupidity of continuing the scheme became obvious.

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:19 am

I'm sure you were joking, but they were actually gonna call it the Ultra 64, which is not that great but better than just "nintendo" 64. In fact the 64 was lame too, I'd have taken Ultra Famicom any day.

I totally agree on the "nintendo entertainment system" though, LAME, and a crappy font. Whoever made the US SNES had no concept of cool whatsoever.

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:29 am

My favorite ugly part of the whole US SNES look was the wavy fringe on the botton of the console deck. Who did they get to design the thing? Christopher Lowell??

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:37 am

don't you know? the American public of the 1990's didn't like class, they wouldn't by anything with any style. You have to make it look cheap, then they'll come in droves. GIVVIE-ME-PLASTIC-PRUPLE-TOY

FitzRoy · Post by **FitzRoy** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:41 am

Panzer88 wrote:I'm sure you were joking, but they were actually gonna call it the Ultra 64, which is not that great but better than just "nintendo" 64. In fact the 64 was lame too, I'd have taken Ultra Famicom any day.

Yes, I was being facetious. But the amazing thing about all of it is that the existing name, design, and logo were fine, and for whatever reason they waste all this money creating localized versions that are 10x worse. It happens in the names of games, too, like the "sequel skip" phenomena for which FF is infamous. I mean, either somebody has a vendetta against uniformity or some marketing hack needs to justify their paycheck.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:20 am

FitzRoy wrote:That's pretty much an exact replica now. Very nice.

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
FirebrandX wrote:I'm in agreement with byuu in that the US controller sucks ass. I like to pretend the Euro controller is the official SNES one
:'(
He's right, you know. The American SNES was just a god-awful design, probably gave away at least a million sales to Sega just by being that ugly.

I'm just talking about the controller.

The US one is more subdued. It exudes class.
And I loved the mix of concave and convex buttons.

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:22 am

small update:

Changed to a wooden desktop. Better contrast. Pretty much waiting on my controller to come in the mail (or some new pics from Grin) before I can get serious on the d-pad.

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:23 am

can I have a concave/convex color controller? would be sweet. I still would have picked dark grey, black, red, or anything but purple for the buttons, but then again, what the hell do I know

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:32 am

Panzer88 wrote:can I have a concave/convex color controller? would be sweet. I still would have picked dark grey, black, red, or anything but purple for the buttons, but then again, what the hell do I know

Purple isn't necessarily bad. The shade they used went well with the grays of the controller body.

I'll admit that the console itself looks ugly(though I don't think it's as ugly as others make it to be, it IS among the uglier systems in existence).
The Super Advantage is a lot less ugly, despite being styled similarly. I think it's because the purple "sliders" don't dominate the design so heavily.

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:34 am

well sure, you can't argue taste, I don't mind purple but like it more saturated. I agree to disagree and stop my evil derailing of this glorious thread.

kick · Post by **kick** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:44 am

Nice angled perspective,but now the whole render looks extremely washed out

(too much lighting)

kick · Post by **kick** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:58 am

The ultimate SNES controller - the Euro pad with two extra buttons colored like the US pad. All buttons arranged in a 6-button configuration like the ASCII fighting pad.

I think I've seen such a pad in a SNES commercial (from Nintendo???)

The L shoulder button is a waste.I'd rather have two R buttons.You wouldn't like to use the L button when playing Street Fighter-style games.It's only useful for playing pinball simulations and accessing menus

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:03 am

the ultimate hacker pad

kick · Post by **kick** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:07 am

Add some gyroscopes and you have a nice 'steering wheel'. Perfect for Moto Racer / Moto GP fans

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:15 am

kick wrote:Nice angled perspective,but now the whole render looks extremely washed out
(too much lighting)

Not to worry, this is just my first test render with the new lighting. I'll be correcting the lighting as I go along after getting my real controller in the mail.

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:49 am

Ok, I went back to the default render for now. I wont go back to the mental ray until I get better using it (my apologies for that, Kick).

However, I did keep the perspective angle and wooden desktop. I like those.

gllt · Post by **gllt** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:51 am

I made jello in 3DS max but I can't get the materials right :V

You have such good skills

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:53 am

gllt wrote:I made jello in 3DS max but I can't get the materials right :V

You have such good skills

What flavor?