no database

murder50 · Post by **murder50** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:48 pm

I have a super mario all stars plus world rom that work pretty good put when when i scan it with NSRT it never finds a database unlike another games. I have download this rom from a few sites but it never finds a database is it hacked or do it just don´t have a any database

plese help me

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:05 pm

Use NSRT to fix or trim the rom if necessary.

murder50 · Post by **murder50** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:04 pm

ok i used detect and safely trim and now it show a database but did this chance anithing what did it to my game

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:08 pm

It shouldn't break savestates or anything of the sort. The game should run as normally intended.

Rashidi · Post by **Rashidi** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:35 pm

since nsrt forum still down, i will ask it here:

"-trim" is force trim (use with caution, not suggested for mass trimming)
"-safetrim" is trimming when the result in database

this what happen to me:

i have rom that has good checksum (nsrt told so), but nsrt also said it being overdump. safetrim wont trim it (it seem for not in database), but force trim do, the result is works properly, result checksum is good {case A}

other rom has bad checksum (as being patched with translation .ips) and nsrt also told that the rom probably overdump.
safetrim wont trim it obviously,
but if i force trim it, the rom won't work anymore (luckyly i backup that rom, as nsrt readme suggest), result checksum is bad {case B}

i have plenty rom with case-A and case-B in one directory, so i would like propose another triming condition: trim when result checksum is good (doesn't have to be exist in database)
this new trim method may moderately used for mass trimming rom in directory

Jipcy · Post by **Jipcy** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:55 pm

Rashidi wrote:other rom has bad checksum (as being patched with translation .ips) and nsrt also told that the rom probably overdump.
safetrim wont trim it obviously,
but if i force trim it, the rom won't work anymore (luckyly i backup that rom, as nsrt readme suggest), result checksum is bad {case B}

NSRT will never include translated ROMs in it's database. The best thing you can do in that case is get a good original ROM, and soft-patch it with an original patch (downloaded from the translator's web site).

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:08 pm

I usually just make a copy of the untranslated ROM, adjust the filename (from (J) to (U) or similar) and rename the IPS file accordingly.

Btw. you can create patches with good checksums if you know what you're doing.

murder50 · Post by **murder50** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:53 pm

so the game shut play like original mario all stars plus world right

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:25 pm

murder50 wrote:so the game shut play like original mario all stars plus world right

Yes, I already answered this.

murder50 · Post by **murder50** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:19 am

sorry see this the other message confused me

btw thanks alot Deathlike2 you have help me alot

Post by **Nach** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:31 pm

If you have a list of games after a forced trim still work properly and maintain a good checksum, I'll be interested in a list of them.

I think I weeded these out a while ago though...
Be warned though that the next NSRT will have improved checksum calculation, so it's quite possible certain cases which you think are correct aren't. So give me a list, and I'll double check them with the rest of my staff.