ZSNES ports 2007 userbase choices

Post by **grinvader** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:07 pm

It's that time again, choose which port you use most. As an extra, you can mention in a post if you have anything against ZSNES losing its DOS port and/or win9x compatibility.

BTW: to preempt silly stuff - we're talking about ZSNES itself, not some sort of portjob on consoles that shall remain nameless (yet hueg).

Vote away !

muxum · Post by **muxum** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:40 pm

vmware + any linux live cd should solve lacking win9x

although i dunno if that would work

as for dos hmm...

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:48 pm

dos needs to go

however keep windows 98se compatability for now

ps: I use the windows port most often these days, believe it or not

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:00 pm

move forward, and leave those left behind to the wolves.

Post by **Agozer** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:25 pm

DOS can go. I say keep the 9x compatibility for now, unless it starts to introduce problems in some way.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:43 pm

I'm stuck with DOS v1.42 anyway, since v1.51's debugger is not completed yet. So it doesn't much matter to me personally if DOS is killed off in the future.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:45 am

DOS can sure be left behind, but I guess keeping Win9x is needed.

Clements · Post by **Clements** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:48 am

Even when I first used ZSNES roughly five years ago, my PC was fast enough for the Win port at playable framerates. Never needed to use any other port. Haven't used Win9x on a home system since 2002.

Esturk · Post by **Esturk** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:54 am

I haven't used the DOS port since about 2001. I've been running ZSNES on Windows XP x64 for a couple of years now and it's been great.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:28 am

Windows XP FTW!

i havn't used a real DOS environment since about 2002, i have used DOSBox tho.

galamonth · Post by **galamonth** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:42 pm

all those 2006 zsnes wips were great for dos on win9x but my old laptop got teardown eventualy, so i had to get a new desktop, been using snes9x 1.51 since then...

denzilla · Post by **denzilla** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:55 am

Using XP here, no need for either DOS or 9x support. They're both outdated and need to be put to rest. How about replacing the DOS port with a Win32 port like baseline MAME? That way if people hate the current GUI, someone can code a good FE

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:07 am

Thank you for your participation.
We'll keep win9x compatibility for the time being.
DOS is going down.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:25 pm

Another vote for ZSNESW under NT.

I think it's a good time to finally put ZSNES DOS to bed. Perhaps make a final send off release if possible. Also, keep a DOS version available as download on the site. That way anyone who needs to use DOS can still easily find a version of ZSNES to use.

That should be fine for everyone.

As for ZSNES 9x. What reasons do you have that would make upcoming versions of ZSNES incompatible with 9x? You can still keep 9x and NT compatibility pretty easily with the same version. There's not many got to have NT only features that are worth killing off that computability right now in my opinion.

I would probably keep 9x compatibility around for another version or two and re-evaluate next year. It's also not really logical to me that you've kept the DOS version around for eons and all the sudden now you want to axe the 9x version so quickly. It seems somewhat premature.

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:31 pm

Nightcrawler wrote:As for ZSNES 9x. What reasons do you have that would make upcoming versions of ZSNES incompatible with 9x?

In short, pagefault can make the windows port way faster if we drop 9x support.
FASTAAAR ;)

Anyway, that was the point of the poll. We took the decision that looked best given the answers.

Kajuru · Post by **Kajuru** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:15 am

So DOS will get one last version, or 1.51 is the dead end?
A "Farewell DOS" version would pay it some respect.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:01 pm

grinvader wrote:
Nightcrawler wrote:As for ZSNES 9x. What reasons do you have that would make upcoming versions of ZSNES incompatible with 9x?
In short, pagefault can make the windows port way faster if we drop 9x support.
FASTAAAR

Anyway, that was the point of the poll. We took the decision that looked best given the answers.

Anybody running an NT based windows OS today probably has the hardware where they don't need ZSNESW to be any faster. Can anybody claim otherwise? I've gotten full speed in ZSNES ever since I've had hardware capable of running XP decently. That was several years back now on retired hardware.

Again, there seems to be little significant reason to kill of 9x support. And again, the specifics haven't even been mentioned, so they can't even be commented on. I personally wouldn't miss it if it were gone, but still, is it necessary?

Post by **Agozer** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:05 pm

I want more speed out of HQ3X and HQ4X. Pipe dream?

Clements · Post by **Clements** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:11 pm

If the mentioned speed increases bring about lower CPU utilisation (for conservation of laptop battery life), then I am all for it.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:32 pm

Nightcrawler wrote:
grinvader wrote:
Nightcrawler wrote:As for ZSNES 9x. What reasons do you have that would make upcoming versions of ZSNES incompatible with 9x?
In short, pagefault can make the windows port way faster if we drop 9x support.
FASTAAAR

Anyway, that was the point of the poll. We took the decision that looked best given the answers.
Anybody running an NT based windows OS today probably has the hardware where they don't need ZSNESW to be any faster. Can anybody claim otherwise? I've gotten full speed in ZSNES ever since I've had hardware capable of running XP decently. That was several years back now on retired hardware.

Again, there seems to be little significant reason to kill of 9x support. And again, the specifics haven't even been mentioned, so they can't even be commented on. I personally wouldn't miss it if it were gone, but still, is it necessary?

it lets them CODE the emulator faster, may not impact on emulators performance.

pagefault is working on audio support and the sound engine for zsnes.

Jipcy · Post by **Jipcy** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:11 pm

Given this news, I'm looking forward to the next release. I'll be more than happy to remove all DOS-specific documentation, and I might even get in the mood to document some other stuff.

soulmata · Post by **soulmata** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:20 pm

i build it on linux only

i suggest scrapping Dos and 9x support

fffffffffff

xamenus · Post by **xamenus** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:50 am

Someone may want to make a news post on the ZSNES site announcing this. I would imagine that more people read the site more often than the forum, especially considering that the board is dead.

In other words, the opinions here may not exactly be representative of the general public.

Personally, I think DOS support should be dropped, but I wouldn't mind if 9x support was dropped either.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:59 am

I would suggest making a final/farewell version of the DOS and win 9x versions before dropping them, that'd likely keep a lot of users happy.

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:08 am

Cyrus wrote:I would suggest making a final/farewell version of the DOS and win 9x versions before dropping them, that'd likely keep a lot of users happy.

According to this pole, not enough to warrant the effort.

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