ZSNES 1.51 broken driver

kickass367 · Post by **kickass367** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:11 pm

For some reason or another, every SNES rom I play on ZSNES marks as a bad rom. For example in Mega Man X, in any stage I'm playing, it'll suddenly stop..the password screen comes up then I'm back in the intro stage. I was told by an individual on another board that part of the latest driver in ZSNES 1.51 is broken. If that's not the case..then any suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Post by **Agozer** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:32 pm

Scan your ROMs with NSRT and make sure your ROMs are good dumps.

IIRC, the v1.0 version of Megaman X had some kind of copy protection, but don't quote me on that.

kickass367 · Post by **kickass367** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:13 pm

Where can I find NSRT?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:17 pm

There's a fair chance you actually have a bad rom when ZSNES says that.

The Mega Man X issue you are experiencing is a result of OpenBus support not being implemented. The copy protection of the game reacts like that. A recommended solution is to use the 1.1 revision of the game, which doesn't react as such (it uses a different scheme for copy protection which ZSNES will work fine with).

I don't even know why you are quoting from the other source when you should go directly here to begin with.

kickass367 · Post by **kickass367** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:19 am

Problem is Deathlike2, ZSNES says every rom I have is bad. I tested these roms using 2 other emulators and both of them come up as good roms with no issues. I love ZSNES out of any emulator I've used and would prefer to use it. So I'm not sure if the issue you mentioned is the only one or if there's more to this..either from the site I get the roms from or ZSNES itself.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:21 am

It sounds like the site you're getting your ROMS at are bad dumps. And no, we can't tell you where to find good dumps.

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:52 am

kickass367 wrote:Where can I find NSRT?

Searching the board or using Google is a good start.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:53 am

Which are "all those roms"?

kickass367 · Post by **kickass367** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:44 am

Donkey Kong Country, Donkey Kong Country 2, Donkey Kong Country 3, Joe & Mac, Joe & Mac 2, Mega Man X, X2 and X3, Mortal Kombat 2, Super Mario Kart, Super Mario World 1 and 2, Super Mario RPG, Super Metroid, Super Punch-Out

kickass367 · Post by **kickass367** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:48 am

Well I reverted back to 1.42 of ZSNES and the roms work perfectly now. Not sure which of the updates from 1.42 to 1.50 is causing the issues.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:37 am

I'm not sure why you aren't using 1.51 instead...

It sounds to me like you're using a WIP of ZSNES that has issues with zip support (check the date of ZSNES in Misc->About)

There is something particular about your setup that you have not mentioned that is vital to your problem, perhaps involving storing IPSes and/or how you are placing your files.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:15 pm

kickass367 wrote:Where can I find NSRT?

RHDN, for example

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:47 pm

Joe Camacho wrote:Which are "all those roms"?

and more importantly, since when does ZSNES use, load, or even come with drivers, let alone plugins?

Post by **Nach** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:35 pm

creaothceann wrote:
kickass367 wrote:Where can I find NSRT?
RHDN, for example

Or the official website, which actually carries the latest version: http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=764

Kajuru · Post by **Kajuru** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:58 am

Not to mention he's probably sharing zsnes.cfg between different versions.

and more importantly, since when does ZSNES use, load, or even come with drivers, let alone plugins?

I'm waiting for the new Zsnes codecs. And Genesis applet.

kickass367 · Post by **kickass367** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:14 am

Actually I completely delete the ZSNES directory before installing a different version.

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:26 pm

Nach wrote:
creaothceann wrote:
kickass367 wrote:Where can I find NSRT?
RHDN, for example
Or the official website, which actually carries the latest version: http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=764

Suggestion to Nach: UPDATE RHDN if you know it to be out of date. That's the entire point of the site.

Post by **Nach** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:50 pm

Nightcrawler wrote:
Nach wrote:
creaothceann wrote:
kickass367 wrote:Where can I find NSRT?
RHDN, for example
Or the official website, which actually carries the latest version: http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=764
Suggestion to Nach: UPDATE RHDN if you know it to be out of date. That's the entire point of the site.

Yeah right.
And not only is it out of date, that's only the Windows version. Do you even have a way to show one program with multiple ports?

Edit:
Seems if I alter that search there, I find this:
http://www.romhacking.net/?category=3&P ... NSRT&desc=

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:15 pm

Quit preaching about it and do something about it. I'm tired of your comments over RHDN being out of date and you knowingly don't do anything. It's a user maintained site. Knowing it's out of date, doing nothing but complain about it when you can fix it in 30 seconds is being a spiteful, and a poor community player for sure.

The NSRT website doesn't even work when I go there....

phpBB : Critical Error

Error creating new session

DEBUG MODE

SQL Error : 1016 Can't open file: 'phpbb_sessions.MYI' (errno: 145)

Line : 152
File : XXXX/includes/sessions.php

I've done you a favor and omitted the SQL statement itself and file path as to not post a security hole for all to see.

Post by **Nach** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:43 am

Nightcrawler wrote:Quit preaching about it and do something about it.

Do what? It's not a wiki. I don't see an edit button.

Nightcrawler wrote: I'm tired of your comments over RHDN being out of date and you knowingly don't do anything.

I'm tired of users posting links to old versions. Especially when they know where to get the latest one, but feel advertising for your site is more important than the utility/patch/info at hand, and you knowingly defend them.

Nightcrawler wrote: It's a user maintained site.

It's so well maintained that the users seem to advertise it more than actually go through and verify anything.

I wouldn't mind if not every time I saw someone post a link to RHDN the data appeared to be out of date.

How would you feel if instead of linking to your official site, I linked here instead? http://web.archive.org/web/200604240028 ... t-inc.com/

Nightcrawler wrote: Knowing it's out of date, doing nothing but complain about it when you can fix it in 30 seconds is being a spiteful, and a poor community player for sure.

Sending out drones to advertise your site instead of taking the 30 seconds to find the official link, and posting in every thread that may have something to do with RHDN is poor for the community as well.

I get it that you want to make the best archive for translation patches and any info or utilities that can help. I commend you for that. I also understand that programming something to do link validation and search that page for updated versions isn't so easy to do, which is why you prefer to offload such work onto the community to make sure things are up to date.

However your community from my perspective doesn't seem to care enough about the datedness of what's on there, as long as something is there. I don't know whose fault it is for being that way, I don't know the mentality of your community, or what ideals you try to burn into their minds.

The fact that every time I see a link which is old and I point it out, you jump in and get all defensive about it, defending that being old is a good thing. It's gotten to the point where I'm sarcastic about it, and you seem to be generally upset. If it's so easy to take care of, why don't you just do it, or leave a note to someone else in your staff?

This even occured in a discussion where I mentioned some new data which is current, and you have someone posting old data from your site to contradict me. I don't appreciate the zealousness of RHDN in every situation like this. If you think it's appropriate, next time someone wants a link to RHDN, I'll give them the link to RHDN on archive.org, it's almost the same site right?

If it makes you happy, if you can tell me the submission process is just posting a link to a site with the new stuff, I'll do it every time I make a release, or notice someone else has. But don't expect me to go posting to every last community emulation site and post news. And please have the courtesy to double check any link to something you post elsewhere to RHDN contains the latest version of whatever it is about, and tell your community to do the same.

Nightcrawler wrote: The NSRT website doesn't even work when I go there....

Yes, the server is out of HD space and they're switching it and who knows what else. I don't run the thing, Edgeemu does.

This is completely irrelavent to the topic at hand, but it does demonstrate the usefulness of having mirrors. Therefor until Edge gets their act together, I recommend going here: http://snesemu.free.fr/index.php?page=tools
Since he's up to date, and is usually never more than a week behind in anything he offers.

Gonzo · Post by **Gonzo** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:55 am

Nach wrote: Therefor until Edge gets their act together, I recommend going here: http://snesemu.free.fr/index.php?page=tools
Since he's up to date, and is usually never more than a week behind in anything he offers.

Um, shouldn't you not be mentioning edge, due to the rules of the board

Nightcrawler · Post by **Nightcrawler** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:10 am

Nach:

http://www.romhacking.net/utils/400/

There's your [EDIT] link. Every entry on the entire site able to be edited has one. Not a wiki, but wiki like.

I didn't update the files because your site is broken. I didn't know your mirrors. All I know is the NSRT website, is now and has been broken for awhile. Thus, I had no means to update that I knew of.

We don't need to start some big useless discussion nobody but us will bother reading. Suffice to say, while I admit, perhaps I overreacted, my aim is directly at you for pointing out outdated data and doing nothing about it when it would take you just seconds to fix the issue. That's why I get defensive.

Just use the [EDIT] link on any entry page and update the file URL, version number, and whatever else you feel is pertinent.

We're both too old for this nonsense. I apologize for overreaction. However, I hope you can at least see why it upsets me when people point out problems they can easily fix, but don't bother. On the flip side, I can see why provided links to outdated material does not please you either. I'm not defending outdated data. I'm lobbying for people to fix the problem when it's discovered rather than ignore it and keep pointing it out.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:33 am

soo, your updating to nsrt 3.4 when?

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:02 am

Cigar Face wrote:
Nach wrote: Therefor until Edge gets their act together, I recommend going here: http://snesemu.free.fr/index.php?page=tools
Since he's up to date, and is usually never more than a week behind in anything he offers.
Um, shouldn't you not be mentioning edge, due to the rules of the board

Um, what?

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:33 pm

franpa wrote:soo, your updating to nsrt 3.4 when?

Submitted.