Gil_Hamilton wrote:I'm gonna need some context.grinvader wrote:Hey Gil, mind reminding me which it is already: Gideon is a traitor, or Gideon is NOT a traitor ?
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Re: Lunar story manglingGil_Hamilton wrote:I'm gonna need some context.grinvader wrote:Hey Gil, mind reminding me which it is already: Gideon is a traitor, or Gideon is NOT a traitor ?
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... I'm talking about LUNAR gideon. Not the Zhi.
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started to say, Gideon Zhi is awesomegrinvader wrote:... I'm talking about LUNAR gideon. Not the Zhi.
also it seems like grin got owned again
also neoblaze, taco: soft, hard, or volcano?
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oh yeah, ghaleon. fuck that, i'm not the resident lunarboy.
So, traitor or not ?
So, traitor or not ?
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Even though I played this game to death on zsnes, I'm still gonna get it. I was never able to get it on the snes, cause living in Canada eh, it was going for a fucking $100 when it was out.
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He's... more complex in the original.grinvader wrote:oh yeah, ghaleon. fuck that, i'm not the resident lunarboy.
So, traitor or not ?
Originally, he's bent out of shape because his best friend got killed doing Althena's dirty work, and doesn't understand why a goddess NEEDS a human to do her business for her(a question that remained unanswered until Eternal Blue).
Ironically, his vengeance winds up killing Dyne. Ooops.
In SSS, he's just an asshole.
Althena's all "People need to quit depending on me for everything. It's just holding them back." and Ghaleon's all "Nuh-uh, people are dumb and you gotta boss 'em around or they fuck it all up." and she's all "Oh, no you didn't. I'm gonna retire RIGHT THE FUCK NOW and prove you wrong!" and he's all "Be that way, bitch! I'll steal your job!"
That clear enough?
The change also makes his redemption in Eternal Blue fairly non-credible.
Also, the changes to Althena pissed me off.
Alex is a fucking consolation prize what the fuck bullshit!
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That's Ghaleon's argument, which is barely brushed upon. mostly it's "Hey, look at that crazy Ghaleon! He's killin' dragons, kidnappin' townsfolk, and brainwashin' my adopter sister/girlfriend! Let's go shank that bizatch!"Metatron wrote:Wow, my memory is shot.
I actually played SSS too. Go figure.
I was making am inference based on what you said about the original, sounded like a villification to me, but eh
But he's off his rocker anyways, and there's even more-slightly brushed-upon threads indicating he was posessed by a demon.
I'm fairly convinced the game wasn't really complete, and several elements had been cut somewhere in the dev cycle, either when it was planned for a ROM cart, or when they started converting to CD.
But Luna IS Althena, and she's good people. Well, except when Ghaleon brainwashes Luna so he can use Althena's power to smite peoples. THEN she's bad people. But she's still good underneath that, and the power of love and music can undo the brainwashing.
Make sense?
His question was actually addressed in Lunar 2. Althena had lost a good bit of power due to losing followers in the war with Zophar.
It was actually to the point that the dragonmaster(and other, less cool heroes like Ghaleon, Lemia, and Mel) were needed to protect her. She wasn't doing her own dirty business anymore because she wasn't capable of doing her own dirty business anymore.
Anyways... nerdgasm.
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*PS1 cut-scenes are included. Those can be turned off.
*One new dungeon is the 14th alternate ending to the end, while the other new dungeon adds more story.
More info can be found in the hands-on.
*PS1 cut-scenes are included. Those can be turned off.
*One new dungeon is the 14th alternate ending to the end, while the other new dungeon adds more story.
More info can be found in the hands-on.
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A new ending?snkcube wrote:http://ds.ign.com/articles/923/923277p1.html
*PS1 cut-scenes are included. Those can be turned off.
*One new dungeon is the 14th alternate ending to the end, while the other new dungeon adds more story.
More info can be found in the hands-on.
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