I originally planned to use the word 'automata' in my post, as well.Johan_H wrote:>:Ugrinvader wrote:virii
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I originally planned to use the word 'automata' in my post, as well.Johan_H wrote:>:Ugrinvader wrote:virii
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<jmr> bsnes has the most accurate wiki page but it takes forever to load (or something)
KHDownloadsSquall_Leonhart wrote:DirectInput represents all bits, not just powers of 2 in an axis.You have your 2s, 4s, 8s, 16s, 32s, 64s, and 128s(crash course in binary counting!). But no 1s.
KHDownloadsSquall_Leonhart wrote:DirectInput represents all bits, not just powers of 2 in an axis.You have your 2s, 4s, 8s, 16s, 32s, 64s, and 128s(crash course in binary counting!). But no 1s.
it's not stereotyping if it's true !Gil_Hamilton wrote:Or stereotyping all transhumanists as a bunch of megalomaniacs with delusions of godhood and dreams of immortality.
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Man as we know it is going to go extinct anyways.Yuber wrote:Attempting to play God like that is dangerous, arrogant and has the potential to render humans as we are today extinct.
All extremists are fucking crazy. That's why we call them extremists.Extreme transhumanists are fucking crazy, much crazier than even the nuttiest religious people.
KHDownloadsSquall_Leonhart wrote:DirectInput represents all bits, not just powers of 2 in an axis.You have your 2s, 4s, 8s, 16s, 32s, 64s, and 128s(crash course in binary counting!). But no 1s.
What about "I wanna be a robot to get in a standoff with the FBI and burn every building and anyone in them to the ground." ?Gil_Hamilton wrote:I find "I wanna be a robot and live forever" less crazy than "I'mma get in a standoff with the FBI and then burn the building and everyone in it to the ground."
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Chrono Trigger is a lousy source of philosophical ammunition.Yuber wrote:I'd say they're both equally crazy. The violent one will naturally be looked at as being crazier because people like that represent direct, immediate threats. In other words, they create more immediate fear. However, wanting to become an immortal, genetically manipulated cyborg is pretty damn nutty. Just because there's a strong possibility we'll go extinct eventually doesn't mean we should intentionally speed up the process by creating immortal Frankenstein monsters.
Since this is a gaming forum, I'll use this analogy: "This is the eternal kingdom of Zeal where dreams can come true, but at what cost?" Extreme transhumanism is like opening Pandora's box.
KHDownloadsSquall_Leonhart wrote:DirectInput represents all bits, not just powers of 2 in an axis.You have your 2s, 4s, 8s, 16s, 32s, 64s, and 128s(crash course in binary counting!). But no 1s.
I just feel sorry for poor Creature. Villified and mocked forever by people who don't even TRY to understand him, just because he wasn't pretty enough to blend in.Yuber wrote:I simply used Frankenstein as an example of a scientifically created abomination; you're overanalyzing a bit there Gil.
It doesn't work well for anything without context, and I dispute the hubris.I used a Chrono Trigger quote because it's my favorite game and I simply like said quote. I never claimed Zeal exemplified the ideals of transhumanism, but that quote works just as well as a warning against extreme transhumanism as it does for Zeal's hubris. Hubris is what both the fake CT society and the real ideals of transhumanism share in spades.
I think believing you're a god is crazier than wanting to better yourself.Also, just because a person only plans to(potentially) harm him/herself doesn't make them any less nuts than a violent psychopath. Less dangerous? Definitely. Crazy is relative to a society or even a single community's ideals anyway so it's got a fairly open definition.
No they don't. No one wants to become a god-like being.Some of the more extreme transhumanists want to BECOME immortal, "god-like" beings,
You keep using words like abomination, so I'm getting mixed signals here.and while I don't see those people as monsters, I definitely consider them crazy as shit.
I agree there are risks to rushing to genetic engineering(which, incidentally, IS legally restricted, if in a more knee-jerk reactionary manner than a well-reasoned response to technology). I see no such risks with cybernetics, beyond the societal upheaval that accompanies any major new technology or discovery.I do find the most extreme elements of the transhumanist movement dangerous for our long term survival as human beings, however. Once Pandora's box is open, it's open forever. The extreme elements of the transhumanist movement are simply cutting straight to the "logical" conclusion(s) of transhumanist ideas. My main argument is that we shouldn't try to play God & that we shouldn't rush such technology because the potential risks are massive.
KHDownloadsSquall_Leonhart wrote:DirectInput represents all bits, not just powers of 2 in an axis.You have your 2s, 4s, 8s, 16s, 32s, 64s, and 128s(crash course in binary counting!). But no 1s.
KHDownloadsSquall_Leonhart wrote:DirectInput represents all bits, not just powers of 2 in an axis.You have your 2s, 4s, 8s, 16s, 32s, 64s, and 128s(crash course in binary counting!). But no 1s.
Gore is more robotic than Romney, though. But Gore's demonstrated a greater capacity for independent thought than I would expect of a modern machine.Yuber wrote:Maybe Mitt Romney is an example of the Mormon transhumanist dream? He's so robotic that even his laugh is fake. Obama sucks ass too, but Romney really does like some awkward robot stereotype. Dunno if it was his(lack of) personality, bad campaign advice or both.
KHDownloadsSquall_Leonhart wrote:DirectInput represents all bits, not just powers of 2 in an axis.You have your 2s, 4s, 8s, 16s, 32s, 64s, and 128s(crash course in binary counting!). But no 1s.
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Shhh, don't blow the dang cover.Yuber wrote:they're anything but.
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