UCLA student gets tased for not having his student ID card

[Tallgeese]

"OH NO EVILDOER! TAZE TIME!!!"

...Am I the only one who chuckled at that quote? I find it amusing in a good way.

[Deathlike2]

Bottom line is the shit is fucking not right. I will be an asshole if I want to be an asshole, I'll get what is coming to me. What was the reason they used a taser on him in the first place? Would they have shot him if they had guns and not tasers? if you want to arrest the bitch, cuff him and drag him to the fucking car. Bottom line, the guy is an asshole, the officers were bigger assholes abusing power. The end.

The point is, if he hadn't been an asshole ("Don't TOUCH ME!") he wouldn't have been tazed.

So until someone that can taze/pepper gas/tear gas/handcuff you arrives you start obeying the rules?

Also, cops carry tazers *so* they don't have to shoot/scare people with guns.

Using tazers to restrain someone that refuses to comply? That's fair. Also, using tazers is a safer way to cuff someone and drag him to the car.

Really? Shit I was not aware that Cops were able to arrest people before tasers were invented. I forgot they have that reaching your arm towards your shoulder blade technique. he reserves every fucking right to tell someone not to fucking touch him. It is his fucking body. Unless he was told before had that he was under arrest. If he got touched. I'm sure he could get away with swinging at the cop. Then again that would be a reason to use a taser would it not.
I don't know where the fuck you got that it was fair. now correct me if I am wrong. Was there any kind of threat posed to the officers? Fair game my ass. It is why police officers cannot shoot fleeing suspects legally.

Cuff him, if unable to cuff, restrain till backup arrives, read Miranda then ship him the fuck off. Like I said he needed to be arrested, but your so called "fair" is quite unfair. Listen to yourself. "They have tasers so they don't have to shoot people." Listen to that statement and tell me what is fucking wrong with it. "So they don't have to shoot people." You are pretty much saying, if they had fucking guns, it would have been fair game to shoot him. I'm sorry dude but you are an idiot.
The only reason a cop should ever pull out his gun is to protect himself or another. if this taser is a non let hat replacement to a gun. Then the only reason to pull it out is to protect yourself or another.
You've pretty much said, if they carried nightsticks, they are allowed to have wailed on him.
It is an abuse of power plain and fucking simple.

Unfortunately, if you lack the ID... technically you are considered to have trespassed. The cops are completely within their right to do whatever it takes to remove you from the property (except anything that requires using a gun). There is really isn't an exception to this rule. They certainly could have done it better, but he gets what he deserves. Being an ass to any authority figure (especially the police) will always go down bad. You are effectively shooting yourself in the foot.

[PHoNyMiKe]

The police SHOULD be a bit more patient. I wouldn't respect that kind of authority. (Which in fact I don't).

lol then you get tazed dumbass.

rules are rules. if you're asked to leave then it's time to leave. if the cops are called, then it's definately time to leave. if you struggle with the cops and try to act like they are the ones breaking the rules, when in fact you are the one breaking them, then it's taze time.

let us remember the video of the fat kid screaming and crying being a fucking drama queen when his car gets towed away. this situation is no different. except it's funnier. what's up with kids these days, always looking for attention and acting like they're a victim 100% of the time. grow up.

[Joe Camacho]

let us remember the video of the fat kid screaming and crying being a fucking drama queen when his car gets towed away. this situation is no different. except it's funnier. what's up with kids these days, always looking for attention and acting like they're a victim 100% of the time. grow up.

Wait, what? Where can I see this video?

Edit.- Youtubed!

[Tallgeese]

let us remember the video of the fat kid screaming and crying being a fucking drama queen when his car gets towed away. this situation is no different. except it's funnier. what's up with kids these days, always looking for attention and acting like they're a victim 100% of the time. grow up.

Wait, what? Where can I see this video?

Edit.- Youtubed!

What were the search words?

[Joe Camacho]

let us remember the video of the fat kid screaming and crying being a fucking drama queen when his car gets towed away. this situation is no different. except it's funnier. what's up with kids these days, always looking for attention and acting like they're a victim 100% of the time. grow up.

Wait, what? Where can I see this video?

Edit.- Youtubed!

What were the search words?

"Cry Baby tow"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jTF9vxFI64

[darkbenny]

classic

[corronchilejano]

The police SHOULD be a bit more patient. I wouldn't respect that kind of authority. (Which in fact I don't).

lol then you get tazed dumbass.

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[funkyass]

The police SHOULD be a bit more patient. I wouldn't respect that kind of authority. (Which in fact I don't).

lol then you get tazed dumbass.

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its illegal to disobey the police, once you disobey them, they'll do everything to get you to obey them in one form or another, because at that point you are their responsibility.

[corronchilejano]

The police SHOULD be a bit more patient. I wouldn't respect that kind of authority. (Which in fact I don't).

lol then you get tazed dumbass.

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its illegal to disobey the police, once you disobey them, they'll do everything to get you to obey them in one form or another, because at that point you are their responsibility.

I thought cops were there to PROTECT people...

But I forgot, in the US, they enforce the law.

[funkyass]

I thought cops were there to PROTECT people...

But I forgot, in the US, they enforce the law.

Prove, at that moment, that student wasn't a threat to anyone.

Its easy to bitch out the police from an armchair, put yourself in their shoes with the mindset of protecting people.

[Deathlike2]

I thought cops were there to PROTECT people...

But I forgot, in the US, they enforce the law.

Prove, at that moment, that student wasn't a threat to anyone.

Its easy to bitch out the police from an armchair, put yourself in their shoes with the mindset of protecting people.

You can't even really assume the kid is a student. He could be a crazy bastard with explosives (terrorist) or some nutcase with a gun.

[Joe Camacho]

The police SHOULD be a bit more patient. I wouldn't respect that kind of authority. (Which in fact I don't).

lol then you get tazed dumbass.

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its illegal to disobey the police, once you disobey them, they'll do everything to get you to obey them in one form or another, because at that point you are their responsibility.

I thought cops were there to PROTECT people...

But I forgot, in the US, they enforce the law.

Smartass, LAWS ARE MADE TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE.

Specially criminal laws. You know, the ones that protect LIFE (Homicide..), LIBERTY (Kidnaps, hijacks..), PROPERTY (Theft..), REPUTATION (Slander..), SEXUAL INTEGRITY (Sexual abuse..), PHYSICAL INTEGRITY (Injuries), etc.

[corronchilejano]

Specially criminal laws. You know, the ones that protect LIFE (Homicide..), LIBERTY (Kidnaps, hijacks..), PROPERTY (Theft..), REPUTATION (Slander..), SEXUAL INTEGRITY (Sexual abuse..), PHYSICAL INTEGRITY (Injuries), etc.

Riiiiiiiight, so cops protect people by tazing people than don't want to stand up. A guy doesn't want to show an ID and they protect people by tazing him when the PEOPLE ARE SAYING DON'T taze him.

I love protection. [/sarcasm]

[Joe Camacho]

Specially criminal laws. You know, the ones that protect LIFE (Homicide..), LIBERTY (Kidnaps, hijacks..), PROPERTY (Theft..), REPUTATION (Slander..), SEXUAL INTEGRITY (Sexual abuse..), PHYSICAL INTEGRITY (Injuries), etc.

Riiiiiiiight, so cops protect people by tazing people than don't want to stand up. A guy doesn't want to show an ID and they protect people by tazing him when the PEOPLE ARE SAYING DON'T taze him.

I love protection. [/sarcasm]

Dude, the guy was at a place where he shouldn't have been in the first place. He was told by the complex personnel to leave. He didn't. Then the cops came and instead of following indications to restrain him he went all "DON'T TOUCH ME! IS THIS YOUR PATRIOT ACT!", he didn't cooperate so they tazed him.

He refused to stand up once he was handcuffed, and was continuing to struggle with the officers. So they tazed him again.

Dude, you know shit about enforcement procedures.

So if someone is disobeying a police officer, and they try to restrain, but someone else tells them to stop, they should? Fuck that. I have been in detentions several times, most of the time the relatives FIGHT against the officers because "Our son/husband/brother/etc COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT!" So they should stop? Man, what the fuck.

Now, you tell me he didn't provoke the situation. He was told to leave (By the place authority), he didn't, policed tried to restrain him without tazing, he struggled.

You don't know WHY they need to have an ID card to use the University installations. They might be security or administration reasons. Someone that's inside that you can't identify can be a small or a large risk. They are PROTECTING the UNIVERSITY and the STUDENTS by proxy.

If you are a Student in a University, you should know it's fucking regulations. If you go to the library and forget your ID Card, well, go get it back, if you lose it, replace it. But don't come crying and whinning when you don't have it and you aren't allowed to use the installations. Even worse "FIGHT THE POWER!!!!", because it's as dumb as fighting a fine for not obeying a RED LIGHT.

[Deathlike2]

Specially criminal laws. You know, the ones that protect LIFE (Homicide..), LIBERTY (Kidnaps, hijacks..), PROPERTY (Theft..), REPUTATION (Slander..), SEXUAL INTEGRITY (Sexual abuse..), PHYSICAL INTEGRITY (Injuries), etc.

Riiiiiiiight, so cops protect people by tazing people than don't want to stand up. A guy doesn't want to show an ID and they protect people by tazing him when the PEOPLE ARE SAYING DON'T taze him.

I love protection. [/sarcasm]

Refuse police officers orders == Taze Me!

There's a difference between unable to get up and refusing to get up. The latter getting some tazing may be extreme but again, refusing to cooperate it is asking for more trouble.

For a moment, why don't you do the same in a mall, police station, or any public place? I'm sure the police will leave you alone....

The crowd has no control in the situation. That's not their responsibility. Showing your ID IS a requirement for that establishment. Saying otherwise is being stupid.

[neoblaze]

too baked to read all this text.

shit go boom

zap ouchies

[corronchilejano]

Dude, you know shit about enforcement procedures.

That's never been my point.

[PHoNyMiKe]

at least now he has a great story to tell his grandkids:

"grampa? what's the most important thing you've done in your lifetime?"

"well little Betsy, I was quite the rebel back in my younger years. I used to use the campus computers without my id card! that lead to many confrontations with the fuzz. I stood up against the patriot act, and fought the man! all while getting tazed."

"here's your patriot act bzzzzzzt ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!" lol

[Joe Camacho]

Dude, you know shit about enforcement procedures.

That's never been my point.

Specially criminal laws. You know, the ones that protect LIFE (Homicide..), LIBERTY (Kidnaps, hijacks..), PROPERTY (Theft..), REPUTATION (Slander..), SEXUAL INTEGRITY (Sexual abuse..), PHYSICAL INTEGRITY (Injuries), etc.

Riiiiiiiight, so cops protect people by tazing people than don't want to stand up. A guy doesn't want to show an ID and they protect people by tazing him when the PEOPLE ARE SAYING DON'T taze him.

I love protection. [/sarcasm]

[kieran_]

As soon as I heard him crying and screming about the Patriot Act, I wanted him to get fucked up.

[blackmyst]

On the one hand I hate cops who scream all hell and point their guns at grandmas or little kids as if they were six foot tall armed prison inmates, because at home the missus calls the shots which drives them crazy. On the other hand, I really, really hate punks who think they're too fucking big to follow orders or do anything that anyone asks them to, and get all pissy or scream like a pig trying to resist.

So, yeah. Idunno. I guess watching them hurt each other is pretty good.

[corronchilejano]

Joe, even though police enforce the law, at certain times it's necesary for them to have a little... ehm... in Spanish the word is "touch". They're dealing with people for chrissakes, this guy hadn't killed, stolen or bombed, so?

Even the other people at the library were surprised. As you can see, in the video, when another guy approaches and asks for the cops badge face to face, the cop tells him to back off.

If the respect you get from others is through fear, don't expect it to last very long.

[Joe Camacho]

Joe, even though police enforce the law, at certain times it's necesary for them to have a little... ehm... in Spanish the word is "touch". They're dealing with people for chrissakes, this guy hadn't killed, stolen or bombed, so?

Even the other people at the library were surprised. As you can see, in the video, when another guy approaches and asks for the cops badge face to face, the cop tells him to back off.

If the respect you get from others is through fear, don't expect it to last very long.

I repeat, the officers didn't use force from the beginning, hell, he was asked from the place authorties to leave, and looks like he thought that it was ok to DISOBEY them, until the Officers came he tried to leave, but too late! So the officers tried to restrain him and the dude resisted and struggle.

Here, I can even give you an analysis of the situation:
1) He forgot/lost his ID card.
The situations could have been easily prevented by replacing/finding/returning home/dorms for his ID card.

2) He was using installations that required having a ID card.
If he knows he needs and ID card, he could have told the authorities, if he could use them this one time, or return to step 1.

3) He fail a surprise identification inspection.
Oh man, caught! But then again, he should have known that he needed an ID card.

4) He REFUSED to leave when the inspectors told him to do so.
We are getting in trouble, he refused to follow the indications of the local authority even though he had broken an administration/security rule. If he had LEFT in this step, he could have prevented the situation.

5) Tried to leave ONCE he saw the police officers.
Oh? So now that he sees someone that can FORCE him to leave, he tries to run. Not a good idea. Sometimes, when someone runs from a Police Officer is because you have SOMETHING TO HIDE.

6) Fail to comply with the police officer orders.
Ok, so he couldn't run. Logic would say that you should cooperate with the officers, so even if you broke a simple administration/security rule, the restraining procedure would go as calm and safe as it can. But no, he refused. But remember, he already TRIED to ESCAPE, so the police officers are now in a different stance, obviously not a friendly one. If he had complied, he would have prevented the tazing.

7) He struggled.
Resisting a restraining procedure? Man, what? You will only give the officers a blank check to use any method they find adecuate to restrain him. TAZED!

8 ) Once handcuffed, he continued to struggle.
Dude, you are busted, give it a rest, but no! CONTINUE FIGHTING THE MAN! Yeah! It doesn't matter that you placed yourself in this situation yourself! TAZED AGAIN!

THAT in the CASE that he is a student of the university, if he is a student, HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE RULES AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF BREAKING THEM.

IF HE IS NOT, then the university has all the right to remove any person who they find in their property. SPECIALLY when they refuse to leave by themselves, when asked to leave.

The situation escalated to that point because of the decisions of the Dude, not because of the attitude of the authority/police officers. This has NOTHING to do with being a POLICE STATE, or STICKING IT TO THE MAN. This is about a dumb guy that broke a rule and he took some very dumb decisions. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Deathlike2]

Joe, even though police enforce the law, at certain times it's necesary for them to have a little... ehm... in Spanish the word is "touch". They're dealing with people for chrissakes, this guy hadn't killed, stolen or bombed, so?

Even the other people at the library were surprised. As you can see, in the video, when another guy approaches and asks for the cops badge face to face, the cop tells him to back off.

If the respect you get from others is through fear, don't expect it to last very long.

I repeat, the officers didn't use force from the beginning, hell, he was asked from the place authorties to leave, and looks like he thought that it was ok to DISOBEY them, until the Officers came he tried to leave, but too late! So the officers tried to restrain him and the dude resisted and struggle.

Here, I can even give you an analysis of the situation:
1) He forgot/lost his ID card.
The situations could have been easily prevented by replacing/finding/returning home/dorms for his ID card.

2) He was using installations that required having a ID card.
If he knows he needs and ID card, he could have told the authorities, if he could use them this one time, or return to step 1.

3) He fail a surprise identification inspection.
Oh man, caught! But then again, he should have known that he needed an ID card.

4) He REFUSED to leave when the inspectors told him to do so.
We are getting in trouble, he refused to follow the indications of the local authority even though he had broken an administration/security rule. If he had LEFT in this step, he could have prevented the situation.

5) Tried to leave ONCE he saw the police officers.
Oh? So now that he sees someone that can FORCE him to leave, he tries to run. Not a good idea. Sometimes, when someone runs from a Police Officer is because you have SOMETHING TO HIDE.

6) Fail to comply with the police officer orders.
Ok, so he couldn't run. Logic would say that you should cooperate with the officers, so even if you broke a simple administration/security rule, the restraining procedure would go as calm and safe as it can. But no, he refused. But remember, he already TRIED to ESCAPE, so the police officers are now in a different stance, obviously not a friendly one. If he had complied, he would have prevented the tazing.

7) He struggled.
Resisting a restraining procedure? Man, what? You will only give the officers a blank check to use any method they find adecuate to restrain him. TAZED!

8 ) Once handcuffed, he continued to struggle.
Dude, you are busted, give it a rest, but no! CONTINUE FIGHTING THE MAN! Yeah! It doesn't matter that you placed yourself in this situation yourself! TAZED AGAIN!

THAT in the CASE that he is a student of the university, if he is a student, HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE RULES AND THE CONSEQUENCES OF BREAKING THEM.

IF HE IS NOT, then the university has all the right to remove any person who they find in their property. SPECIALLY when they refuse to leave by themselves, when asked to leave.

The situation escalated to that point because of the decisions of the Dude, not because of the attitude of the authority/police officers. This has NOTHING to do with being a POLICE STATE, or STICKING IT TO THE MAN. This is about a dumb guy that broke a rule and he took some very dumb decisions. Nothing more, nothing less.

You have good points.

However, there's tons of oh noes! Police brutality and the crowd pleading the officers somehow give the dumbass a right to be stupid!