bsnes v0.031 released

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:02 pm

byuu wrote:
Seriously, how many people age 12 to 40 do you know who doesn't understand English far better than needed for using an emulator?
I've seen multiple copies of bsnes that have been hex edited to display all text in simplified Chinese, so much so that when a new version is released by me, people ask how much longer it will be until it is translated.

And even if everyone understands English, this doesn't hurt. It's just some people volunteering CFG files, I post them on my website, and that's that. A nice way of respecting other countries and making things a bit easier on users.

I meant mainly translating to languages spoken where "everyone" pretty much fully understands English, though that wasn't clear at all.
Though as you say, it doesn't hurt either way. I didn't mean to come off as a nay-saying dick.
I actually think I'm going to try and fail at translating it. Technical terms are always a bitch to make sound right.

henke37 · Post by **henke37** » Mon May 19, 2008 4:30 pm

I found a missing string for the translation, "select folder", from the path settings.

And I also found a minor GUI bug, the unsupported chip dialog will keep showing on all loads until you close bsnes, even if the game being loaded doesn't have such a chip. Once you have tried to load such a game once that is.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:18 pm

I meant mainly translating to languages spoken where "everyone" pretty much fully understands English, though that wasn't clear at all.
Though as you say, it doesn't hurt either way. I didn't mean to come off as a nay-saying dick.

Yeah, no big deal either way.

I found a missing string for the translation, "select folder", from the path settings.

Yeah, those are embedded inside the GUI library, hiro. I'll have to expose the ability to override the defaults. I've been wanting to do that anyway, to say things such as "Select <ROM/Save RAM/Cheat> Folder" and such.

Verdauga Greeneyes · Post by **Verdauga Greeneyes** » Mon May 19, 2008 5:41 pm

tetsuo55 wrote:It's actually pretty difficult to translate everything to dutch...

Yeah, I noticed that - I intended to do more work on it before, but I've been setting up my new PC. Do you think we should translate Reset at all? What about 'Load Special'?

ShadowFX · Post by **ShadowFX** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:06 pm

Based on bsnes v0.031 WIP11, I've pretty much done the Dutch (v1.04) translation:

DOWNLOAD

Some words were pretty tricky to translate, but I've tried to be as accurate as possible. Maybe someone likes to review it though.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:06 pm

Well, so long as you guys are native speakers ... just get something similar. I took a lot of liberties with the Japanese one.

Eg, "Load Special" can just be "Load Other(s)", "Load Custom", "Load Alternative(s)", etc. Basically just need to convey the underlying intention is all.

And I'll need to add those file open/folder select strings to the locale.cfg file, too. Hoping that will be the last of it.

The only problem I can see with this is that someone could delete the bsnes cfg as a way to return everything to default

Well, yeah, but we can't get everything we want. It's at least now possible to do things any way you want, so long as you read the manual.

Only other thing I could think of would be to rename bsnes.cfg to bsnes.dll, so that people would be afraid to delete it.

I'd really rather not default to the folder bsnes is in. It's "much" harder to create the .bsnes folder and make files there for the multi-user setup, and then you'd have to do that for every single user. Yeah, because you know dozens of people run bsnes on the same PC :P

Based on bsnes v0.031 WIP11, I've pretty much done the Dutch (v1.00) translation:

Whoa, that is so cool! Thank you! :D
One question though, does Dutch not have umlauts and accent marks? You're free to use those, if you like. Or maybe they're there and it's my fontset acting screwy ... this PC doesn't even have Japanese fonts :/

ShadowFX · Post by **ShadowFX** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:09 pm

I'm having trouble translating Gamma ramp in Dutch, can anyone explain a bit what it actually is?

byuu wrote:One question though, does Dutch not have umlauts and accent marks?

It has, yes. I didn't have to use it though for the translation, as far as I can see.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:12 pm

I'm having trouble translating Gamma ramp in Dutch, can anyone explain a bit what it actually is?

Essentially, a TV's gamma is much darker than a PC's. The "Gamma Ramp" option will try and simulate this. In essence, it makes lower-ranged colors darker, which makes things look a lot less washed out.

You can call it something like "TV Gamma," or if you have room, "TV Gamma Simulation."

The controls don't auto-size, so I can't do much about really long strings.

It has, yes. I didn't have to use it though for the translation, as far as I can see.

Ah, so they're just not as common as in some other languages. Very cool!

ShadowFX · Post by **ShadowFX** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:23 pm

Dutch v1.01 uploaded. Minor fixes here and there.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:26 pm

I looked at the "Select Folder" text in the folder select window.

The text doesn't even show up at all in GTK+, and you can't (easily) override the "Browse For Folder" and "Open File" messages (which I assume is so they can be localized internally by Windows.)

I'm just going to remove the text, at least for v032. It doesn't really serve much of a purpose as it stands. This way, I won't have to post yet another locale.cfg file for everyone to update to.

Thanks again to everyone working on this :D

henke37 · Post by **henke37** » Mon May 19, 2008 6:56 pm

Well, I think I did a fair job on the translation.

Turambar · Post by **Turambar** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:00 pm

I started working with the Finnish translation today, and it turned out to be really difficult. We don't have a "standard" computer vocabulary here, I mean it took much time to figure out a translation which doesn't sound totally awkward. Hardest words to translate so far are Reset, Power Cycle and Load Special stuff. I think Reset could be left intact like someone already mentioned.

I understand that this whole localisation stuff isn't completed yet, but byuu, you really should add an independent line for every button text and such in every window, menu etc. For example I translated Default into "Oletuspolku" (which means Default Path) in Path Settings Dialog, and then "Oletuspolku" popped up in the Advanced dialog in place of Default. So please don't recycle the lines too much.

I also found this one useful:

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--- src/ui/settings/cheateditor.cpp	2008-05-18 09:17:31.000000000 +0300
+++ ../bsnes/src/ui/settings/cheateditor.cpp	2008-05-19 19:59:48.000000000 +0300
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@
     char s_code[256], s_desc[256];
     cheat.get(i, enabled, addr, data, s_code, s_desc);
     list.add_item(string()
-      << (enabled ? "Enabled" : "Disabled") << "\t"
+      << (enabled ? translate["Enabled"] : translate["Disabled"]) << "\t"
       << s_code << "\t"
       << s_desc);
   }
@@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
     char s_code[256], s_desc[256];
     cheat.get(index, enabled, addr, data, s_code, s_desc);
     list.set_item(index, string()
-      << (enabled ? "Enabled" : "Disabled") << "\t"
+      << (enabled ? translate["Enabled"] : translate["Disabled"]) << "\t"
       << s_code << "\t"
       << s_desc);
   }

ShadowFX · Post by **ShadowFX** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:20 pm

Dutch v1.02, missed some words

, minor fixes.

F-3582 · Post by **F-3582** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:37 pm

I did a German translation. Rapidshare link here:

http://rapidshare.de/files/39470919/locale.cfg.zip.html (Version 1.04 - thanks to creaothceann and byuu)

CC'ed it here, if anyone wants to criticise it (Yes, Pizuz is me, too).

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"System" = "System"
"Load Cartridge" = "Steckmodul laden"
"Load Special" = "Spezialmodul laden"
"Load BS-X Cartridge" = "BS-X-Modul laden"
"Load BS-X Slotted Cartridge" = "Durchgeschleiftes BS-X-Modul laden"
"Load Sufami Turbo Cartridge" = "Sufami-Turbo-Modul laden"
"Unload Cartridge" = "Steckmodul entfernen"
"Power Cycle" = "Kaltstart"
"Exit" = "Beenden"

"Settings" = "Einstellungen"
"Video Mode" = "Anzeigemodus"
"Scale 1x" = "Vergrößerung 1x (Ausgangsgröße)" 
"Scale 2x" = "Vergrößerung 2x" 
"Scale 3x" = "Vergrößerung 3x" 
"Scale 4x" = "Vergrößerung 4x" 
"Scale 5x" = "Vergrößerung 5x" 
"Correct Aspect Ratio" = "Fernseher-Bildschirmformat (4:3)"
"Point" = "Point"
"Linear" = "Linear"
"None" = "Kein"
"Scanline" = "Scanline"
"Video Filter" = "Grafikfilter" 
"Video Frameskip" = "Frames überspringen" 
"Mute Sound Output" = "Stummschaltung" 
"Slowest" = "am langsamsten" 
"Slow" = "langsam" 
"Normal" = "normal" 
"Fast" = "schnell" 
"Fastest" = "am schnellsten"
"Enabled" = "Aktiviert"
"Disabled" = "Deaktiviert"
"Configuration" = "Konfiguration"

"Misc" = "Verschiedenes"
"Log Audio Data" = "Tonausgabe mitschneiden"
"Show Statusbar" = "Statusleiste anzeigen"
"About" = "Über"

"bsnes Configuration Settings" = "bsnes-Konfigurationseinstellungen"
"Raster Settings" = "Rastereinstellungen"
"Input Configuration" = "Eingabegerätekonfiguration"
"Path Settings" = "Pfadeinstellungen"
"Cheat Code Editor" = "Cheatcode-Editor"
"Advanced" = "Erweitert"

"Name" = "Name"
"Value" = "Wert"
"Status" = "Status"
"Code" = "Code"
"Description" = "Beschreibung"
"Type" = "Typ"

"Contrast" = "Kontrast"
"Brightness" = "Helligkeit"
"Gamma" = "Gammakorrektur"
"Gamma ramp" = "Farbverstärkung"
"Sepia" = "Sepia"
"Grayscale" = "Graustufen"
"Invert colors" = "Farben umkehren"
"Optimal Preset" = "Optimale Einstellung"
"Standard Preset" = "Standardeinstellung"

"When emulation window does not have focus:" = "Wenn das Emulationsfenster nicht im Fokus steht:"
"Allow input" = "Eingabe zulassen"
"Ignore input" = "Eingabe ignorieren"
"Pause emulation" = "Emulation anhalten"
"Assign Key" = "Taste zuordnen"
"Unassign Key" = "Tastenzuordnung aufheben"

"Joypad 1 Up" = "Joypad 1 Oben"
"Joypad 1 Down" = "Joypad 1 Unten"
"Joypad 1 Left" = "Joypad 1 Links"
"Joypad 1 Right" = "Joypad 1 Rechts"
"Joypad 1 A" = "Joypad 1 A"
"Joypad 1 B" = "Joypad 1 B"
"Joypad 1 X" = "Joypad 1 X"
"Joypad 1 Y" = "Joypad 1 Y"
"Joypad 1 L" = "Joypad 1 L"
"Joypad 1 R" = "Joypad 1 R"
"Joypad 1 Select" = "Joypad 1 Select"
"Joypad 1 Start" = "Joypad 1 Start"

"Joypad 2 Up" = "Joypad 2 Oben"
"Joypad 2 Down" = "Joypad 2 Unten"
"Joypad 2 Left" = "Joypad 2 Links"
"Joypad 2 Right" = "Joypad 2 Rechts"
"Joypad 2 A" = "Joypad 2 A"
"Joypad 2 B" = "Joypad 2 B"
"Joypad 2 X" = "Joypad 2 X"
"Joypad 2 Y" = "Joypad 2 Y"
"Joypad 2 L" = "Joypad 2 L"
"Joypad 2 R" = "Joypad 2 R"
"Joypad 2 Select" = "Joypad 2 Select"
"Joypad 2 Start" = "Joypad 2 Start"

"Pause Emulation" = "Emulation anhalten"
"Reset System" = "Warmstart durchführen"
"Power Cycle System" = "Kaltstart durchführen"
"Exit Emulator" = "Emulator beenden"
"Speed Regulation Decrease" = "Geschwindigkeit verringern"
"Speed Regulation Increase" = "Geschwindigkeit erhöhen"
"Frameskip Decrease" = "Anzahl der zu überspringenden Frames verringern" 
"Frameskip Increase" = "Anzahl der zu überspringenden Frames erhöhen"
"Toggle Fullscreen" = "Vollbild an/aus"
"Toggle Menubar" = "Menüleiste ein-/ausblenden"
"Toggle Statusbar" = "Statusleiste ein-/ausblenden"

"bsnes Key Capture" = "Warte auf Tastendruck"
"Press a key to assign to $ ..." = "Drücken Sie eine Taste, die $ zugeordnet werden soll ..."

Default game ROM path:" = "Standardpfad für Steckmodul-ROMs:" 
"Auto-detect file compression type (ignore file extension)" = "Dateikompression automatisch erkennen (Dateiendung ignorieren)"
"Default UPS patch path:" = "Standardpfad für UPS-Patchdateien:"
"Bypass CRC32 patch validation (not recommended)" = "CRC32-Verifizierung von Patchdateien umgehen (nicht empfohlen)"
"Default save RAM path:" = "Standardpfad für Save-RAM-Dateien:"
"Default cheat file path:" = "Standardpfad für Cheatcode-Dateien:"
"Select" = "Auswählen"
"Default" = "Voreinstellung"

"Add Code" = "Code hinzufügen" 
"Toggle Status" = "Status umschalten" 
"Delete Code" = "Code löschen" 
"<code>" = "<Code>" 
"<description>" = "<Beschreibung>" 

"string" = "String" 
"integer" = "Integer" 
"<current value>" = "<Aktueller Wert>" 
"Set" = "Einstellen" 

"Base cartridge:" = "Basismodul:"
"Slot cartridge:" = "Durchgeschleiftes Modul:"
"Slot A cartridge:" = "Modul in Steckplatz A:"
"Slot B cartridge:" = "Modul in Steckplatz B:"
"Browse ..." = "Durchsuchen ..."
"Clear" = "Löschen"
"Load" = "Laden"
"Cancel" = "Abbrechen"

"Warning" = "Achtung"
"Unsupported $ chip detected." = "$-Chip wird nicht unterstützt."
"Ok" = "Ok"

"About bsnes ..." = "Über bsnes..."
"Version" = "Version"
"Author" = "Autor"
"Project began: October 14th, 2004" = "Projekt besteht seit: 14. Oktober 2004"
"Contributors:" = "Mitwirkende:"
"Localization by: byuu" = "Übersetzung: Pizuz, creaothceann"

Post by **grinvader** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:39 pm

For french, just put 'le' before every other word.

byuu · Post by **byuu** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:56 pm

Yay, German :D

Okay, I'll need to know the translations for "Enabled" and "Disabled" as well, sorry about that. Just add them to the bottom for now, and I'll sort it out later.

Verdauga Greeneyes · Post by **Verdauga Greeneyes** » Mon May 19, 2008 7:57 pm

Well done ShadowFX! I went through the file, and here are some more suggestions.. some are serious, with others I'm playing around with alternatives; let me know what you think. (this is based on 1.0.1 by the way.. you're too fast for me

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"Load Special" = "Laad Andere"
"Power Cycle" = "Aan/Uit Cyclus"
"Correct Aspect Ratio" = "Corrigeer schermverhouding"
"Point" = "Punt"
"Mute Sound Output" = "Geluid dempen"
"Misc" = "Overige"
"Log Audio Data" = "Audiogegevens registreren"
"Grayscale" = "Grijstinten"
"Standard Preset" = "Standaardinstellingen"
"When emulation window does not have focus:" = "Wanneer het emulatievenster niet de focus heeft:"/"Wanneer de focus niet op het emulatievenster ligt:"
"Allow input" = "Sta invoer toe"
"Ignore input" = "Negeer invoer"
"Unassign Key" = "Toewijzing Knop opheffen"
"Joypad 1 Up" = "Controller 1 Omhoog"
"Joypad 1 Down" = "Controller 1 Omlaag"
"Reset System" = "Herstart systeem"
"Power Cycle System" = "Doe Aan/Uit Cyclus"
"Exit Emulator" = "Sluit emulator af"
"Speed Regulation Decrease" = "Verhoog Snelheidsregulering"
"Speed Regulation Increase" = "Verlaag Snelheidsregulering"
"Frameskip Decrease" = "Frameskip verhoging"
"Frameskip Increase" = "Frameskip verlaging"
"Toggle Fullscreen" = "Zet volledig scherm modus aan/uit"
"Toggle Menubar" = "Zet menubalk aan/uit"
"Toggle Statusbar" = "Zet statusbalk aan/uit"
"bsnes Key Capture" = "bsnes Knop Toewijzing"
"Press a key to assign to $ ..." = "Druk op een knop om deze toe te kennen aan $ ..."
"Auto-detect file compression type (ignore file extension)" = "Detecteer automatisch bestandscompressietype (negeer bestandsextensie)"
"Bypass CRC32 patch validation (not recommended)" = "Sla CRC32 patch validatie over (niet aanbevolen)"
"Select" = "Selecteer"
"Toggle Status" = "Zet aan/uit"
"Set" = "Stel in"
"About bsnes ..." = "Over bsnes ..."

F-3582 · Post by **F-3582** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:12 pm

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"Enabled" = "Aktiviert"
"Disabled" = "Deaktiviert"

My translation of "Power Cycle" might have been a little too literal ^^ One could probably change it to "Netzschalter" or "Konsole ein-/ausschalten".

ShadowFX · Post by **ShadowFX** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:20 pm

Verdauga Greeneyes wrote:Well done ShadowFX! I went through the file, and here are some more suggestions.. some are serious, with others I'm playing around with alternatives; let me know what you think. (this is based on 1.0.1 by the way.. you're too fast for me )

Updated to Dutch v1.03, thanks a lot Verdauga!

byuu wrote:Okay, I'll need to know the translations for "Enabled" and "Disabled" as well, sorry about that. Just add them to the bottom for now, and I'll sort it out later.

Dutch translation:

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"Enabled" = "Ingeschakeld"
"Disabled" = "Uitgeschakeld"

Hyos · Post by **Hyos** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:49 pm

F-3582 wrote:
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"Enabled" = "Aktiviert"
"Disabled" = "Deaktiviert"
My translation of "Power Cycle" might have been a little too literal ^^ One could probably change it to "Netzschalter" or "Konsole ein-/ausschalten".

In your translation, I believe you wrote "Sromkreis" instead of "Stromkreis".
Also as a native speaker, I think "Stromschalter" would be a better choice.

Verdauga Greeneyes · Post by **Verdauga Greeneyes** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:56 pm

ShadowFX wrote:Updated to Dutch v1.03, thanks a lot Verdauga!

Glad I could help! By the way, don't forget Joypad 2

F-3582 · Post by **F-3582** » Mon May 19, 2008 8:57 pm

Hyos wrote:
F-3582 wrote:
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"Enabled" = "Aktiviert"
"Disabled" = "Deaktiviert"
My translation of "Power Cycle" might have been a little too literal ^^ One could probably change it to "Netzschalter" or "Konsole ein-/ausschalten".
In your translation, I believe you wrote "Sromkreis" instead of "Stromkreis".
Also as a native speaker, I think "Stromschalter" would be a better choice.

Hmmm... well, I think "Netzschalter" might sound a little better, as I'm a native German speaker, as well. Stromschalter sounds a little... well... awkward, in my opinion.

Anyway: Version 1.01 is hier

Hyos · Post by **Hyos** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:05 pm

F-3582 wrote: Hmmm... well, I think "Netzschalter" might sound a little better, as I'm a native German speaker, as well. Stromschalter sounds a little... well... awkward, in my opinion.

Anyway: Version 1.01 is hier

You are right, Netzschalter sounds way better

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:30 pm

Alternativvorschläge:

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"Scale 1x" = "Vergrößerung 1x (Ausgangsgröße)"
"Scale 2x" = "Vergrößerung 2x"
"Scale 3x" = "Vergrößerung 3x"
"Scale 4x" = "Vergrößerung 4x"
"Scale 5x" = "Vergrößerung 5x"
"Correct Aspect Ratio" = "Fernseher-Bildschirmformat (4:3)"
"Video Filter" = "Grafikfilter"
"Video Frameskip" = "Frames überspringen"
"Mute Sound Output" = "Stummschaltung"
"Slowest" = "am langsamsten"
"Slow" = "langsam"
"Normal" = "normal"
"Fast" = "schnell"
"Fastest" = "am schnellsten"
"Disabled" = "aus"

"Log Audio Data" = "Soundausgabe speichern"

"Gamma ramp" = "Farben verstärken"

"When emulation window does not have focus:" = "Wenn das Emulationsfenster nicht den Fokus hat:"

"Joypad 1 Up" = "Joypad 1 Oben"
"Joypad 1 Down" = "Joypad 1 Unten"

"Joypad 2 Up" = "Joypad 2 Oben"
"Joypad 2 Down" = "Joypad 2 Unten"

"Reset System" = "Reset ausführen"
"Power Cycle System" = "Stromzufuhr kurz unterbrechen"
"Frameskip Decrease" = "Anzahl der zu überspringenden Frames verringern"
"Frameskip Increase" = "Anzahl der zu überspringenden Frames erhöhen"

"Default game ROM path:" = "Standardpfad für Steckmodul-ROMs:"
"Auto-detect file compression type (ignore file extension)" = "Dateikompression automatisch erkennen (Dateiendung ignorieren)"

"Toggle Status" = "Status ein-/ausschalten"

"string" = "Zeichenkette"
"integer" = "Ganzzahl"
"<current value>" = "<aktueller Wert>"
"Set" = "einstellen"

ShadowFX · Post by **ShadowFX** » Mon May 19, 2008 9:34 pm

Verdauga Greeneyes wrote:
ShadowFX wrote:Updated to Dutch v1.03, thanks a lot Verdauga!
Glad I could help! By the way, don't forget Joypad 2

Gotcha!