Traffic shaping. Has your ISP started capping torrents yet?

[Snark]

Mine started recently...25k max...whoo...Well it's not really my ISP per-se but the company from which they depend on, see below

And the real bummer is that there is no alternatives. There are dozens of ISP providers in my region but...they are all basically physically dependent on one big head honcho provider who sorta "rent" to other companies. So in the end, it's basically a monopole. Worse, it's a monopole that's most people don't realize because there is an appearance of pseudo "competition".


Anyway, I've read about protocol encryption but so far, no success. So if anyone else is capped, have you had any success with a particular torrent client?

[alexz721]

eMule is capped for me, but strangely not torrents yet.

[blargg]

Not that they aren't necessarily capping in this case, but other things do cause similar symptoms: Man discovers his net wasn't neutered

[Agozer]

The new uTorrent beta supposedly has a feature that renders traffic shaping attempts futile.

[Snark]

Not that they aren't necessarily capping in this case, but other things do cause similar symptoms: Man discovers his net wasn't neutered

I wish it was something else but it's definitely capping. They even admit so. "during peak usage" (which is, apparently, 98% of the week.)

eMule is capped for me, but strangely not torrents yet.

strange indeed. Either you live in an area where emule is more popular than torrents, or your ISP just haven't heard of bittorrent yet

The new uTorrent beta supposedly has a feature that renders traffic shaping attempts futile.

Available to download beta?

Anyway, so far all clients I've tried with encryption have been pointless. Of course I'm not so naive... even IF some fail proof method of encryption was found so as to defeat every known traffic shaping attempts...then the ISPs will just start to use more and more aggressive method...until they limit speed regardless of protocol basically capping the whole connection. It's an arm race. And often the consumer lose more.

[doktor_kris]

Our country is spared for the time being, as seemingly all providers +
the big guys currently refuses to make for any limitations at all.

Hopefully, they won't get forced to make such an action.

[Starman Ghost]

Mine started recently...25k max...whoo...Well it's not really my ISP per-se but the company from which they depend on, see below

And the real bummer is that there is no alternatives. There are dozens of ISP providers in my region but...they are all basically physically dependent on one big head honcho provider who sorta "rent" to other companies. So in the end, it's basically a monopole. Worse, it's a monopole that's most people don't realize because there is an appearance of pseudo "competition".


Anyway, I've read about protocol encryption but so far, no success. So if anyone else is capped, have you had any success with a particular torrent client?

You speak of Bell Canada yes? Luckily I am with videotron cable internet, so I don't have any traffic shapping that I've noticed. I've gotten torrent speeds over 200kb/s.

[Cyrus]

Almost every ISP in Canada has been severely throttling torrents for years now in order to reduce banwidth usage. This pretty much makes it impossible to upload. Even with the heavy throttling torrents that have hundreds of seeds can still download at 800+kbps so the two major ISPs (Rogers and Bell) put a bandwidth cap of 2GB to 60GB for supershit to standard speeds and 90GB cap for the highest speed (which is still shit, less than 1 megabyte/s). Starting June Robbers will start charging charging per GB over 60. Except for the customers who pay for the highest speed internet, they will get charged even now, because you know, those who pay the most must pay more. Guess I'll download the internet right now.

I've been looking for a good ISP for a while but I've found jackshit. All but Robbers are DSL lines which have shit speeds in my area and require a "dry" line adding another $10/month to the bill or want stupid shit like the entire year's worth of payment upfront and have 0 customer service.

EDIT: Starman's ISP seems to be a cable company in Quebec or something but they put really low bandwidth caps, even lower than the lame 60GB cap Bell/Robbers have. That's pretty lame considering how much they charge per month.

[Snark]

Mine started recently...25k max...whoo...Well it's not really my ISP per-se but the company from which they depend on, see below

And the real bummer is that there is no alternatives. There are dozens of ISP providers in my region but...they are all basically physically dependent on one big head honcho provider who sorta "rent" to other companies. So in the end, it's basically a monopole. Worse, it's a monopole that's most people don't realize because there is an appearance of pseudo "competition".


Anyway, I've read about protocol encryption but so far, no success. So if anyone else is capped, have you had any success with a particular torrent client?

You speak of Bell Canada yes?

Yes indeedy. Should have said Bell have the exclusivity of phoneline/DSL and Videotron has the cable exclusivity.

Luckily I am with videotron cable internet, so I don't have any traffic shapping that I've noticed. I've gotten torrent speeds over 200kb/s.

Just curious do you have a static IP with cable? That is, each time you connect does your IP change?

Almost every ISP in Canada has been severely throttling torrents for years now in order to reduce banwidth usage. This pretty much makes it impossible to upload. .

It might have been a few years but until a month or so ago I used to be able to get 300k-dl/50k-ul anytimes.

[I.S.T.]

I have been getting only 50-70 kbs on my torrents recently... I thought it was just the individual torrents(It's certainly possible to connect to a massive torrent and only get 50 kbs a second.). Might be traffic shaping...

[Starman Ghost]

@Snark

I'm always connected, so I have a static ip. It does change every now and then, but I don't know at what frequency.

@Cyrus

Yeah, the caps suck, but I think for an extra 15$ a month or something, they offer higher speeds with no caps whatsoever. I'd get that if I had a better job, but I don't

[adventure_of_link]

Just curious do you have a static IP with cable? That is, each time you connect does your IP change?

wrong

static IPs stay the same no matter what (unless you pay for another IP), dynamic IPs change (usually) every time you connect to the Internet

[Snark]

Just curious do you have a static IP with cable? That is, each time you connect does your IP change?

wrong

static IPs stay the same no matter what (unless you pay for another IP), dynamic IPs change (usually) every time you connect to the Internet

That's what I meant but I guess I badly phrased it. Basically I was asking if he had static IP OR if his IP changed each time he connect (dynamic IP)

[Cyrus]

Just curious do you have a static IP with cable? That is, each time you connect does your IP change?

wrong

static IPs stay the same no matter what (unless you pay for another IP), dynamic IPs change (usually) every time you connect to the Internet

You can change a static IP by releasing it then renewing it after someone has taken your old IP.

[snkcube]

The new uTorrent beta supposedly has a feature that renders traffic shaping attempts futile.

Available to download beta?

Yeah, it's on their download page.

[I.S.T.]

So, it wasn't traffic shaping but somehow Azureus got set to a max of 47 KBs. I don't exactly recall doing that, but I probably did.

[franpa]

Our company recently (yesterday) got rid of our plan and are recommending we go on one that costs 10$ more >.> were looking at other ISP's now since we have 21 days to churn without a disconnection fee.

[Rashidi]

i used to download at about 40KB/s thru mIRC, but now only around 7KB/s ??
the same also happened with my torrent download.

but strangely, my http download is still able to about 40KB/s,
however if the download link speficy non-standard http port for downloading, the speed was only about 7KB/s too!
go figures...

so i suspect:

• my ISP is doing speed cap on connection with certain port range

[creaothceann]

I don't know if my (big) ISP caps - the line is too slow anyway. But according to some listing on the net there's only one smaller ISP here who caps.

[ReRuss]

last torrent I tried I noticed my upload is like twice as fast...

[adventure_of_link]

You can change a static IP by releasing it then renewing it after someone has taken your old IP.

that's what DHCP does

[corronchilejano]

My connection keeps going down when I reach its peak, makes me wonder...

[Deathlike2]

My connection keeps going down when I reach its peak, makes me wonder...

It may simply not be a coincidence.

[corronchilejano]

My connection keeps going down when I reach its peak, makes me wonder...

It may simply not be a coincidence.

Not be or be? It didn't really happen before. Whatever, it is just baseless mumbo jumbo for now.

[Joe Camacho]

I used to download torrents on speeds of 350-400 kilobytes per second.. Then my dad changed our ISP because telmex is "cheaper", now I'm stuck with 100 Kilobytes per second.