Sonic Adventure DX, no sfx...

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:09 am

So I got all nostalgic and wanted to play sonic adventure, without setting up the dreamcast. So I got a copy of the pc version with a nocd patch, and after some wrasslin' I got it working in wine. The weird thing is, while music and voice are playing properly, there are no sound effects to speak of. Looking at the pre-game options menu it seems to indicate that enabling voice should also enable sfx. This seems supported by there not being an entry in the ini file for such a value, while there is one for voice and music. This could easily just be a wine bug, obviously, but I'm curious as to whether anyone else has the game in their possession and answer a question for me. Namely, there is a "sounddata" folder in the game directory, and within it are "bgm" "se" and genral voice folders. The voice and bgm folders are full of wmas, but the se folder is filled with .dat files. Sound there be wmas in there?

I guess my only other question is if the game plays the intro movie like the dreamcast version did. It doesn't currently play, and there are no blatant video files in the directory. If neither of these things are bugs in wine, I can only assume I'm missing some files from the cd due to my use of the nocd patch. Any information would be hlpful. Thanks guys!

ReRuss · Post by **ReRuss** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:29 am

how big is the install? cuz it should be like 2gb

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:04 am

My final install directory comes to about 1.3 gigs... way too small?

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:48 am

Yup, why not buy the game for 10$?

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:01 am

Gosh, I don't know where I'd be without some insightful commentary from franpa. Thank you SO MUCH.

Furthermore:

This could easily just be a wine bug, obviously, but I'm curious as to whether anyone else has the game in their possession and answer a question for me.

In other words, why buy the game if I don't know I'm going to get the exact same problem?

Finally:

Yup

Are you agreeing with some invisible post prior to your own in which I was instructed to buy the game/told off for trying to do things my own way? Who are you agreeing with here?

powerspike · Post by **powerspike** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:09 am

I've tried gaming in wine / cedega and wasn't very pleased with it, but I'm sure other people are happy with it. Still I do recall the Sonic Adventure DX demo having sound when I tired it in it. Maybe try messing around with it? If I still had linux installed I'd have a go at it.

Edit; Oh, I used cedega for the sonic adventure DX demo. Should of been more clear about that.

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:08 pm

Hm. Maybe I'll try playing the demo and see the results I get. For what it's worth, the game is running smooth as hell on regular wine for me. I was pleasantly surprised. Really, the strange lack of videos and sound effects are the only two things missing at this point from me thinking the game is running native.

Thanks for your advice though, I'll try tweaking some stuff. If anyone else has any insight, do let me know.

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:36 pm

DancemasterGlenn wrote:Finally:
Yup
Are you agreeing with some invisible post prior to your own in which I was instructed to buy the game/told off for trying to do things my own way? Who are you agreeing with here?

He was Yup'ing at your '... way too small?'

Probably trying a lewd comment at your pen0r along the way.
Ah wait, that one's from me. >:]

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:37 pm

grinvader wrote:He was Yup'ing at your '... way too small?'

Probably trying a lewd comment at your pen0r along the way.
Ah wait, that one's from me.

Haven't I heard this before?

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:39 pm

Not exactly original, so you're having déjà-vu.

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:41 am

grinvader wrote:He was Yup'ing at your '... way too small?'

When that and the second suggestion made are simply separated by a comma, I suppose it just sounds like a silly lead-in to a sentence. Which wasn't really reflected in my reaction, I suppose.

Probably trying a lewd comment at your pen0r along the way.
Ah wait, that one's from me. >:]

Fair enough. We can't all have humongous pen0rs like you >:]

Either way, I downloaded the demo and it had the same directory structure/showed the same sfx problem/what have you. So this is not a problem that can be solved by buying a copy of the game.... the sound effects must be stored in a different format than the voice/music files, that wine/my audio setup isn't reading properly. I'll keep looking into it, and thanks to everyone for their input.

clessoulis · Post by **clessoulis** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:18 pm

Solution: Wine sucks, use Cedega.

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:49 pm

Cedega's people are dicks for not contributing back to their parent project, and wine has been seeing a lot of solid activity lately... so I think I'm good. Not to mention wine has played almost anything I've thrown at it lately, so I feel minimal need to switch entire compatibility layers just to hear the sound effects in a sonic game.

But meh, knowing me, it may happen anyway. Even after just ranting about it, I guess I should at least check to see if it DOES magically work. It's the same amount of effort as was downloading the demo to check filesystem differences, so... all in the nature of the experiment. I spose I'll give it a shot and report back.

Wine definitely doesn't suck, though. It's a good project, with good people; it runs a lot of shit, and without it cedega could not exist.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:05 pm

Solution: Install Windows.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:40 am

Or ask Nach on IRC to learn how to use real windows dll's with wine.

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:37 am

Gil_Hamilton wrote:Solution: Install Windows.

Thanks Gil :P

And to AoL, that's not a bad suggestion. I probably won't end up doing it anytime soon, despite it probably helping me in the long run, but if Nach would care to show me a thing or two I'd definitely be grateful. I'll have to stop by IRC sometime.

Further updates... there's no way I've got it set up right, because cedega's performance for this game is incredibly poor in comparison to regular wine right now... and cedega doesn't recognize the apps i've installed in wine (obviously), so it wants me to re-install wmp to get sound working again. I may try it at some point, but the whole game is running more poorly all around, making me not want to bother at the moment. I did do some searching and found a wine bug possibly related to my problem, which will hopefully be looked into. At this point, that's probably the end of my search. Hopefully it will get fixed eventually, and as long as it's known, I'm content to wait for a fix. Thanks for everyone's input, however constructive.

EDIT: This is the bug, if anyone has anything to say about it.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:48 am

DancemasterGlenn wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:Solution: Install Windows.
Thanks Gil

Any time.
It's good to be on the other end of the "Solution: change OS" response occasionally. Gives you perspective. Or something.

DancemasterGlenn · Post by **DancemasterGlenn** » Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:32 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:Or something.

Exactly.