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Post by grinvader »

I am pleased to see that some people know their stuff.

However I do note some others refer to the popular (yet halfwitted) understanding of evolution and natural selection. Please improve your knowledge.
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Post by Panzer88 »

if you are referring to myself, why do you think I am here but to expand my knowledge?

of course i do not claim to be an expert of any kind.
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Post by grinvader »

I didn't mean you in particular. Or anyone for that matter. I'm pointing at the discussion as a whole. It's not covering enough.
Actually, importance-wise, you've covered roughly 30-40% of evolution. That sort of discussion eventually drifts into the 'popular' evolution stuff too much for my tastes.

Nothing personal.
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Post by Panzer88 »

yeah, I didn't meant to sound defensive, and I agree I should learn some more about what I'm talking about if I want to really understand it.
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Post by doktor_kris »

Panzer88 wrote:.. because he [Jesus] claimed to be God.
Anyone who has only even remotely cared to open the Bible for a little
more than a glimpse can see that Jesus never claimed to be God, but
merely being his son with a big 's', or firstborn for that matter.

Some times I wonder about how much preciouz Internet space that could
have been saved hadn't it been for all such uneducated answers around
and etc..

Blah, blah & blah.
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Post by franpa »

shouldn't the Horizontal theme have the pages laid out Horizontally? So like have each news entry next to each other rather then stacked on top of each other? at the moment it just affects where the menu bar is.


Yea I know this sounds dumb lol.
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Post by franpa »

Less scrolling for widescreen users lol
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Post by Kiddo »

doktor_kris wrote:
Panzer88 wrote:.. because he [Jesus] claimed to be God.
Anyone who has only even remotely cared to open the Bible for a little
more than a glimpse can see that Jesus never claimed to be God, but
merely being his son with a big 's', or firstborn for that matter.
On that note, he also said that some blessed people could also be called "sons of God", (See the Beatitudes, if I spelt that right. linking to Wikipedia because I'm too lazy for an actual citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatitudes )

I question why few people ever ponder what he really meant by that. If he referred to himself as such, did he ever truly say he was the "only" one?
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Post by byuu »

That was the idea, by horizontal layout I'm referring to the main four DIVs (header+nav+body+footer) gaining 100% of the container width.

In other news, I updated the menubar again. Now the links span the entire buttons so you don't have to click directly on the text anymore. Improved the coloring and padding along with that.

Pretty much the best I can get it, as I can't find a way to center multiple floating DIVs that I don't know the widths of in advance. To contain it in the parent DIV requires overflow: auto; which breaks the ability for the DIV UL elements to appear below the parent DIV's height.

I finally found a nice workaround for the two-column DIV issue (put borders on both sides, use left: -1px to overlap the borders), but overflow: auto; on the parent DIV causes Firefox to "stutter" as you scroll down the page. Absolutely horrendous with the image background theme. So I'm back to manually sizing the body tall enough to account for the navbar, yuck.

I believe I have a much better picture of the CSS layout model now ... it's amazing how complex it is compared to pure HTML. Really limits the ability of total novices to create nice pages without special editors / pre-made themes.

EDIT: got it.

To center floats inside a div, use a container with margin 0em auto; and display: table; which will allow the parent to still act kind of like a non-floating block, but without spanning 100% width. Similar to inline-block, but the latter won't let you center with margin: 0em auto;

From here, you can mark each button div with display: block; upon hovering, change div ul from display: none; to display: block; and they will show up directly under the button divs.

Can't use inline-block, as FF2 doesn't support that, and -moz-display-stack/box takes the div ul left from the container div rather than button div (eg all submenus show up at the left-most edge.) Can't use table-cell / table-row as all browsers then use the container div's left edge for alignment.

The table trick also solves the layout problem. Use a container div and mark it as display: table; and then mark both the navigation and body divs as display: table-cell; now set the body div to use width: 100%; and be sure to use non-breaking spaces for your navigation menu entries.

Doesn't work at all with IE, but who really cares? I'm just going to make an IE stylesheet that is 100% blank.
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Post by 85cocoa »

Quick question:
On http://byuu.cinnamonpirate.com/, byuu wrote:The shaoran theme requires Firefox 3.1+, Opera 10+ or Safari 3+ for RGBA colorspace support
...but it (the shaoran theme) looks perfectly fine to me here on Firefox 3.0.5, with reasonable-looking transparency on the background image. How exactly does Fx 3.1 improve RGBA support? Can you post a screenshot so I can check that what I am seeing is correct?
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocky]Pocky[/url] & [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky]Rocky[/url]? [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocky_%26_Rocky]Pocky & Rocky[/url]? [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_%28series%29#Animals.2FMobians]Pocky & Rocky[/url]?
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Post by byuu »

Oh, does it? Thought the 3.1 changelog said that was just added. I don't use 3.0 at all. 3.1's urlbar settings to disable searching titles and bookmarks is essential to me.

It would be 100% transparent if it didn't support RGBA, eg how it looks with IE.
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Post by 85cocoa »

I edited my post to ask for a screenshot from you, so I'd better provide one myself to be fair. This is what I'm seeing:
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Note that I am using a nonstandard Windows font DPI value, as well as Firefox font sizes, that are larger than the defaults. I'm trying to think of whether I have any extensions installed that could conceivably influence RGBA image support, but I don't think I have any.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocky]Pocky[/url] & [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky]Rocky[/url]? [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocky_%26_Rocky]Pocky & Rocky[/url]? [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_%28series%29#Animals.2FMobians]Pocky & Rocky[/url]?
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Post by byuu »

That's exactly how it should look :D

Your larger-than-normal fonts are fine, too. The entire page will scale evenly with your font size.
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