AMD & NV drivers - now with OpenGL 4.2 & OpenCL 1.1 support

kick · Post by **kick** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:33 pm

GLview's detection code is fixed now.
Here's a screenshot of the GL3.x features supported by the ATI driver (with a low-end HD2600XT and Catalyst 9.3):

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 4:55 am

Deathlike2 wrote:
h4tred wrote:So, OpenGL is the "hey we don't innovate, we imitate!" API?
That was years ago.

Seriously, my faith in D3D is growing more and more each day, and I am now in the stage of learning D3D based graphics programming. Its becoming more and more obvious that OGL is dead.
It's not dead... just castrated because they are waiting for MS, instead of doing stuff on their own. Reactive vs Proactive...

Yes and it shows how Khronos is trying thier hardest to bring thier specs in line with D3D. It should have been there from the start. All we are getting is empty promises and nothing but a lame imitation.
It sounds more like too much arguing over details instead of trying to get it right for the good of OpenGL.

Khronos are basing opengl around the capabilities of the hardware, instead of having the hardware based around the capabilities of opengl, Its kind of all you can do when the hardware is going to be based around Direct3D, as thats where the market is :\. unfortunate as it is.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 4:06 am

I'm curios what everyones experience is like with the newest drivers from Nvidia, now that they merged both Windows 7 and Vista drivers into a single installation package at last.

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:52 am

Uhh... there is no difference between vista and windows 7 drivers.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:27 am

Windows 7 uses WDDM 1.1 with geforce 8 and higher cards?

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:23 am

the difference of .1 means nothing radical was changed.

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:52 am

funkyass wrote:the difference of .1 means nothing radical was changed.

wrong

nah.. you're mostly right, its just some improvements to memory usage, and improved multithreading.

kick · Post by **kick** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:21 am

ATI Catalyst 9.6 gets 10 new extensions, full OpenGL 3.1 support is almost there (80%), GL geometry shaders and more:

http://www.geeks3d.com/20090610/ati-cat ... xtensions/

Interestingly, it seems AMD is seriously updating the OpenGL part of Catalyst. Catalyst 9.6 starts to support geometry shaders by adding 512 geometry uniforms. In the previous version, this value was 0. And compared to the previous versions, the number of vertex and fragment uniforms has been multiplied by 2: 1024.

That's some really exciting news for ATI users

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:21 am

they can support 3.x all they want, but everything lower is still pathetic.

kick · Post by **kick** » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:21 pm

Squall_Leonhart wrote:they can support 3.x all they want, but everything lower is still pathetic.

Still terrible, but there's a small improvement (3%) in the vertex shader performance with the new drivers,even with old (<= GL 2.1) games/apps

kick · Post by **kick** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:40 am

Good news for NVIDIA users:

The latest NVIDIA (BETA) driver has full OpenGL 3.1 support (including GLSL 1.40) and 5 more extensions

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:02 am

more good news, NVIDIA 190.15 beta drivers fix graphics blur on CRT monitors under Windows 7 for several resolutions!

kick · Post by **kick** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:30 am

OpenGL 3.2 Released with Geometry Shaders Support

The Khronos Group on Monday nnounced OpenGL 3.2, the third major update in twelve months to the widely adopted 2D and 3D graphics API. This new release continues the rapid evolution of the OpenGL standard to enable graphics developers to access cutting-edge GPU functionality across diverse operating systems and platforms.

Now we have OpenGL 3.2 that fully exposes state-of-the-art GPU capabilities in a form that meets the needs of both new and experienced OpenGL developers,? said Neil Trevett, president of the Khronos Group and vice president at Nvidia.

OpenGL 3.2 adds features for enhanced performance, increased visual quality, accelerated geometry processing and easier portability of Direct3D applications. The OpenGL ARB (Architecture Review Board) working group at Khronos has defined GLSL 1.5, an updated version of the OpenGL Shading language, and two profiles within the OpenGL 3.2 specification providing developers the choice of using the streamlined Core profile for new application development or the Compatibility profile which provides full backwards compatibility with previous versions of the OpenGL standard for existing and workstation applications.

OpenGL 3.2 has been designed to run on a wide range of recent GPUs and provides a wide range of significant benefits to application developers, including:
Increased performance for vertex arrays and fence sync objects to avoid idling while waiting for resources shared between the CPU and GPU, or multiple CPU threads;
Improved pipeline programmability, including geometry shaders in the OpenGL core;
Boosted cube map visual quality and multisampling rendering flexibility by enabling shaders to directly process texture samples.

In addition, Khronos has defined a set of five new ARB extensions that enable the very latest graphics functionality introduced in the newest GPUs to be accessed through OpenGL ? these extensions will be absorbed into the core of a future version of OpenGL when this functionality is proven and widely adopted.

?Nvidia is committed to the continued rapid evolution and adoption of OpenGL and we are proud to release our OpenGL 3.2 beta drivers on the same day as the specification itself is published. We are listening carefully to developer feedback and will continue to rapidly evolve OpenGL to meet the needs of the industry,? said Barthold Lichtenbelt, chair of the OpenGL ARB working group and OpenGL engineering manager at Nvidia.

Now it's up to AMD to release their OpenCL drivers.
(with double-precision float support for GPGPU)

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:57 am

Download.
http://developer.nvidia.com/object/open ... er.html#dl

mudlord · Post by **mudlord** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:56 am

Improved pipeline programmability, including geometry shaders in the OpenGL core;

Possible with Cg way before 3.0 was released.

Seriously, why does Khronos bother?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:34 pm

mudlord wrote:
Improved pipeline programmability, including geometry shaders in the OpenGL core;
Possible with Cg way before 3.0 was released.

Seriously, why does Khronos bother?

OpenGL is not Windows only and being behind the 8-ball sounds like a good idea if you like being the red-headed stepchild.

kick · Post by **kick** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:00 am

AMD is also working on their OpenGL 3.2 driver for Linux.

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:24 am

Franpa wrote:Download.
http://developer.nvidia.com/object/open ... er.html#dl

to bad the drivers just fucking suck all around.
BSODS, Broken Profiles, Broken 2D/3D performance states, Fan speed broken..... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:03 pm

Even though NVidia doesn't have ATI's CCC/.NET CP, it suffers from WTF profile CP syndrome.

You would think they would have put more attention to fixing their CP issues.. I'll take a semi-resource hogging but working CCC anyway.

kick · Post by **kick** » Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:46 pm

...and now with OpenCL support

AMD has released a beta version of its ATI Stream SDK with OpenCL support

The ATI Stream Software Development Kit (SDK) is a complete development platform to allow you to quickly and easily develop applications accelerated by ATI Stream Technology. This version 2.0 has a new feature: you can now develop applications in OpenCL (Open Computing Language). OpenCL is the first truly open and royalty-free programming standard for general-purpose computations on heterogeneous systems.

This SDK contains the OpenCL.lib + OpenCL headers you need to compile OpenCL programs. Cool!
(VS2008 only... for now)

mudlord · Post by **mudlord** » Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:46 am

Someone should make a emulator with CUDA or OpenCL...................................

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:59 am

Deathlike2 wrote:Even though NVidia doesn't have ATI's CCC/.NET CP, it suffers from WTF profile CP syndrome.

You would think they would have put more attention to fixing their CP issues.. I'll take a semi-resource hogging but working CCC anyway.

yeah, they've changed how the drivers set profiles again >.< now the aa and af selector strings need to be included to set per app settings grrrrrrrr. i knew grestorn should've included these when nvidia was trialing it months ago.

kick · Post by **kick** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:09 am

ATI Catalyst 9.8 (for Windows) is out:

* Full OpenGL 3.1 support (GLSL 1.40)
* 33% of OpenGL 3.2 supported
* Geometry shaders
* 157 extensions

kick · Post by **kick** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:58 pm

The OpenCL Beta drivers bring more OpenGL improvements:

* 2 new OpenGL extensions (for a total of 161)
* 44% of OpenGL 3.2 supported

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:27 am

kick wrote:* 33% of the OpenGL 3.2 features supported

kick wrote:* 44% of the OpenGL 3.2 features supported

Are there only 10 features?