Buying New Comp Parts...

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Thu May 14, 2009 2:14 am

dfreer wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote: Mobo:
Gigabyte
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813128358
This mobo solves my case issue... with it having 2 PCI-E x16 slots
According to the Reviews (and tricky worded specs), there's only one PCIe x16 slot just FYI.

Technically speaking, yes. However, considering that video cards aren't really saturating that bandwidth and these SLI/Crossfire mobos set the bandwidth to 8x in multi-GPU modes, it's a non-issue for the most part.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu May 14, 2009 7:48 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:Having ACTUALLY been threatened with MHz theft(and media player theft as well!), I can assure you that NEITHER of you is aware of the proper protocol.

OBJECTION !!

The defense rests.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri May 15, 2009 7:48 am

grinvader wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:Having ACTUALLY been threatened with MHz theft(and media player theft as well!), I can assure you that NEITHER of you is aware of the proper protocol.
OBJECTION !!

The defense rests.

That's blatant spoof.
...
Dammit, why is LNF so long-dead? It'd be awesome if I could cut/paste the actual threat(and bang my head at my annoying fanboy-ness and embarassing newbie-ness.).

Post by **grinvader** » Fri May 15, 2009 9:41 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:LNF

butyl-2-chloro-4-fluorophenoxyacetate ? ^^

mmm

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sat May 16, 2009 6:50 am

grinvader wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:LNF
butyl-2-chloro-4-fluorophenoxyacetate ? ^^

mmm

http://romhacking.net/community/85/

Responsible for some crappy anime games, and SD3.

Post by **grinvader** » Sat May 16, 2009 10:57 am

Gil_Hamilton wrote:
grinvader wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:LNF
butyl-2-chloro-4-fluorophenoxyacetate ? ^^

mmm
http://romhacking.net/community/85/

Responsible for some crappy anime games, and SD3.

I know. My subtle hint at funnay was missed somewhere on the way. You know, the thing after the question mark.

such is the fate of chem jokes ;_;

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Sun May 17, 2009 6:29 am

grinvader wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:
grinvader wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:LNF
butyl-2-chloro-4-fluorophenoxyacetate ? ^^

mmm
http://romhacking.net/community/85/

Responsible for some crappy anime games, and SD3.
I know. My subtle hint at funnay was missed somewhere on the way. You know, the thing after the question mark.

such is the fate of chem jokes ;_;

YO MOMMA is the fate of chem jokes.

Post by **grinvader** » Sun May 17, 2009 7:46 am

No, she gets them fine due to being a physchem nerd.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:02 pm

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817371015

The Video Card I ended up getting:
http://www.microcenter.com/single_produ ... id=0298564

BFG GTX 260 (overclocked 216 core out of the box, better than the stock eVGA version, and have the lifetime warrenty, AND no fucking rebates, it's not the 55 version though, but meh)

I also ended up getting the Intel Quad Core version (Q9400).

The only pain in the ass is finding out that Intel's Matrix Storage drivers for teh floppy are still borked... but since I'm still running on 2 PATA drives that I can work around the flaw (but this is VERY annoying behavior that I can't exactly install Windows off a future SATA drive with AHCI enabled w/o moving cables around).

Post by **odditude** » Tue May 19, 2009 12:22 am

Deathlike2 wrote:The only pain in the ass is finding out that Intel's Matrix Storage drivers for teh floppy are still borked... but since I'm still running on 2 PATA drives that I can work around the flaw (but this is VERY annoying behavior that I can't exactly install Windows off a future SATA drive with AHCI enabled w/o moving cables around).

of what borkage do you speak? i haven't had any issues with AHCI on ICH8 or ICH10... color me intrigued.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue May 19, 2009 3:32 am

odditude wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:The only pain in the ass is finding out that Intel's Matrix Storage drivers for teh floppy are still borked... but since I'm still running on 2 PATA drives that I can work around the flaw (but this is VERY annoying behavior that I can't exactly install Windows off a future SATA drive with AHCI enabled w/o moving cables around).
of what borkage do you speak? i haven't had any issues with AHCI on ICH8 or ICH10... color me intrigued.

Using the F6 system (the bootable floppy) while running AHCI or RAID modes for use while installing XP, the drivers are simply borked... as in I get a BSOD (IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is the common message).

Installing the Intel drivers within XP via the extra SATA/PATA hybrid controller (supposedly bundled by a JMicron, but others are possible) works correctly (no BSODs here), so one can use the southbridge's SATA controller (for me, the ICH10R).

Here's a link:
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17412/e ... enotes.htm

2553965
Unable to load driver using f6 during system repair or system restore process under Vista

Yes, I know that's not XP, but then if you check out older drivers (for older hardware)

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17296/e ... enotes.htm

2444310
Blue screen may be observed when using the F6 install method on a platform with an Intel® 82801FBM I/O controller hub (ICH6M)

This is not the first time, and probably may not be the last. I never thought I had to do some research for something that technically shouldn't be that complicated. It may have to do with Intel wanting to everyone to move to Vista since it does have native SATA support aka generic AHCI drivers everyone can use.

franpa · Post by **franpa** » Tue May 19, 2009 4:12 am

Deathlike2 wrote:
odditude wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:The only pain in the ass is finding out that Intel's Matrix Storage drivers for teh floppy are still borked... but since I'm still running on 2 PATA drives that I can work around the flaw (but this is VERY annoying behavior that I can't exactly install Windows off a future SATA drive with AHCI enabled w/o moving cables around).
of what borkage do you speak? i haven't had any issues with AHCI on ICH8 or ICH10... color me intrigued.
Using the F6 system (the bootable floppy) while running AHCI or RAID modes for use while installing XP, the drivers are simply borked... as in I get a BSOD (IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is the common message).

Did you try slip streaming the drivers into your Windows XP disc? worked fine on my dads computer that runs XP.

we installed XP with said disc in IDE mode then switched to AHCI mode once installation was done and Windows continued to work and had switched to the AHCI drivers by it self.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue May 19, 2009 4:42 am

Didn't bother/don't care (for now).

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Tue May 19, 2009 6:06 am

Im finding AHCI to be spotty in XP.

Post by **odditude** » Tue May 19, 2009 10:34 pm

Deathlike2 wrote:
odditude wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:The only pain in the ass is finding out that Intel's Matrix Storage drivers for teh floppy are still borked... but since I'm still running on 2 PATA drives that I can work around the flaw (but this is VERY annoying behavior that I can't exactly install Windows off a future SATA drive with AHCI enabled w/o moving cables around).
of what borkage do you speak? i haven't had any issues with AHCI on ICH8 or ICH10... color me intrigued.
Using the F6 system (the bootable floppy) while running AHCI or RAID modes for use while installing XP, the drivers are simply borked... as in I get a BSOD (IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is the common message).

Installing the Intel drivers within XP via the extra SATA/PATA hybrid controller (supposedly bundled by a JMicron, but others are possible) works correctly (no BSODs here), so one can use the southbridge's SATA controller (for me, the ICH10R).

Here's a link:
http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17412/e ... enotes.htm
2553965
Unable to load driver using f6 during system repair or system restore process under Vista
Yes, I know that's not XP, but then if you check out older drivers (for older hardware)

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17296/e ... enotes.htm
2444310
Blue screen may be observed when using the F6 install method on a platform with an Intel® 82801FBM I/O controller hub (ICH6M)
This is not the first time, and probably may not be the last. I never thought I had to do some research for something that technically shouldn't be that complicated. It may have to do with Intel wanting to everyone to move to Vista since it does have native SATA support aka generic AHCI drivers everyone can use.

interesting. i most definitely did not have that problem this past week with two drives (1 x wd6400aaks and 1 x wd10eads) connected to ich10r (on an intel dg45id) in ahci mode. needed f6 for xp (installed using the standard mce 2005 disk, which is equivalent to installing with an xp pro sp2 cd); needed no external driver for vista sp2 x64 dvd or win7 rc1 x64 dvd.

i also find it interesting that the only reference for xp is on an old mobile chipset... ich6m would be attached to a 915gm or 915pm chipset.

when exactly do you get the bsod (is it on first reboot into phase 2 setup?), and what other error codes have you seen? you don't need to remember the mnemonics - just the error code would work.

/me is very intrigued.

oh - if you haven't already, try using the f6 disk from intel's website.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed May 20, 2009 12:59 am

odditude wrote:interesting. i most definitely did not have that problem this past week with two drives (1 x wd6400aaks and 1 x wd10eads) connected to ich10r (on an intel dg45id) in ahci mode. needed f6 for xp (installed using the standard mce 2005 disk, which is equivalent to installing with an xp pro sp2 cd); needed no external driver for vista sp2 x64 dvd or win7 rc1 x64 dvd.

i also find it interesting that the only reference for xp is on an old mobile chipset... ich6m would be attached to a 915gm or 915pm chipset.

Maybe I'm just unlucky, but I don't think this issue is as uncommon, especially with a quick google of the problem.

when exactly do you get the bsod (is it on first reboot into phase 2 setup?), and what other error codes have you seen? you don't need to remember the mnemonics - just the error code would work.

Yes, it occurs during phase 2's setup, when detecting hardware. It was primarily the IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL stuff, and once it was something else (like bad pool, I think) although by default my mobo didn't set the voltage correctly for the RAM (I used Crucial's Ballistix [performance] DDR2-800, and it needs a bump in voltage for the default/optimum performance.)

/me is very intrigued.

oh - if you haven't already, try using the f6 disk from intel's website.

I don't think I got around to trying the latest one on Intel's website until after I got things working. I'll try it again on a future reinstall, but I have no intention of reinstalling XP unless I have to.

FYI, I used a XP SP3 CD for installation (no slipstreaming).

Post by **odditude** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:08 am

Deathlike2 wrote:something else (like bad pool, I think

yeah, BAD_POOL_HEADER is usually misbehaving RAM. IRQL_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL is usually due to a corrupt driver, also possibly due to iffy RAM. just for sanity's sake, next time you're leaving your box for the night run memtest or wmd overnight just to make sure your memory's OK. better to run the test and prove it's fine then have your machine go down later when you *need* it.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:18 am

odditude wrote:
Deathlike2 wrote:something else (like bad pool, I think
yeah, BAD_POOL_HEADER is usually misbehaving RAM. IRQL_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL is usually due to a corrupt driver, also possibly due to iffy RAM. just for sanity's sake, next time you're leaving your box for the night run memtest or wmd overnight just to make sure your memory's OK. better to run the test and prove it's fine then have your machine go down later when you *need* it.

I'll probably run Memtest86 (or the + version, I forget which is better) sometime near the end of the week to be sure. The bad pool header error only happened once, but I've corrected the mem-voltage issue, so I doubt that's it.

I would start pointing to the boot disk driver.. since installing the Windows package (not the boot disk) doesn't cause any issues.

Post by **odditude** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:39 am

Deathlike2 wrote:I'll probably run Memtest86 (or the + version, I forget which is better) sometime near the end of the week to be sure. The bad pool header error only happened once, but I've corrected the mem-voltage issue, so I doubt that's it.

use memtest86+, or windows memory diagnostic.

Deathlike2 wrote:I would start pointing to the boot disk driver.. since installing the Windows package (not the boot disk) doesn't cause any issues.

i agree 100%... that's why i pointed you to the driver straight from intel.

hopefully you don't need to test that theory out, though

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:12 am

memtest.

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:27 pm

How'd the build turn out?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:11 pm

kieran_ wrote:How'd the build turn out?

Just dandy.

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:16 pm

I'm a little late to the party in updating this, but it's finally an official bug in the latest drivers.

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17882/e ... enotes.htm

Intel Driver Release Notes wrote:AHCI driver fails to F6 install and blue screen error 7B is seen on Windows XP OS intermittently

This pisses me off to no end.

Fortunately for me, I don't use any SATA HDs... just a SATA DVD drive.

funkyass · Post by **funkyass** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:17 pm

AHCI doesn't really provide any benefit over IDE emulation.

Beside the fact that XP support for it is spotty(ATI's AHCI drivers don't install at all).

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:27 pm

funkyass wrote:AHCI doesn't really provide any benefit over IDE emulation.

Ignoring NCQ and hotplugging, does the speed decrease in any shape or form using PATA emulation? I couldn't find the info to that.

Beside the fact that XP support for it is spotty(ATI's AHCI drivers don't install at all).

Go figure. The only major update to XP retarding hard disk contollers is the support for 48-bit LBA and support for the last few ATA specs.