How well douse Zsnes run for you?

Hou · Post by **Hou** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:10 pm

Do any of you run Zsnes on a mini ITX Via C3 system? I was going to make one up just for Zsnes, will it work ok?

Richard C. · Post by **Richard C.** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:03 pm

what specs?

Hou · Post by **Hou** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:20 pm

Hello, Hear is what I was looking at http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=2 i was looking at one of the C3 ones. I have a dead SNES and was thinking of putting one in that and wiring up the joystick port to it. you think it would run ok on one?

Thanks

Clements · Post by **Clements** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:25 pm

You probably already know that the performance of a C3 processor isn't exactly excellent, but should be more than enough for ZSNES hopefully (especially the ones that are 1GHz or greater).

Hou · Post by **Hou** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:48 pm

Yes I was not to positive if they would be up to it but I guess it will at least run the games without custom chips in the cart. I think I will just get one and see. If it douse not work I will just have to put it in a dead NES instead.

bwmat · Post by **bwmat** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:55 pm

Well i've run zsnes decently on a 486 66mhz so you should be fine.
By decently i mean 15-20 FPS with no sound, but i'm not complaining.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:04 am

Oh ya? I remember running dos zsnes on a 12mhz, thats right 12 megahertz, laptop! Beat that.

Esturk · Post by **Esturk** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:38 am

I couldn't even get Zsnes DOS to run decently on a P120, 80Mb ram laptop. I get around 40FPS without sound.:p That was playing FFIV. I don't bother playing unless I get a nice solid 60FPS.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:50 am

Esturk wrote:I couldn't even get Zsnes DOS to run decently on a P120, 80Mb ram laptop. I get around 40FPS without sound.:p That was playing FFIV. I don't bother playing unless I get a nice solid 60FPS.

I said I got it to work, I didn't say I got anything close to 60 frames. I didn't even know what frame rate was back then. So as you can guess I didn't have the frame rate display on. But from what I remember I'm guessing it was probably going somewhere around 20-25fps while running Chrono Trigger. This laptop didn't even have a sound card, if I only knew about disabling sound it might have went faster... I think I still have that laptop collecting dust somewhere. It had the first RPG I played/beat on a PC. Castle Of The Winds, that classic shit ruled.

Esturk · Post by **Esturk** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 10:37 am

Yeah, classic games rule. I am still amazed you got Chrono Trigger to run on that 12MHz!! Awesome.

I have all the Pentium 1 chips from 60MHz to 233MHz. I'm going to test each one tomorrow and find out how many frames I get with each one.:p See what the bare minimum I can get Zsnes to run 60FPS, with and without sound in DOS. I might do 486's as well.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:46 am

Esturk wrote:Yeah, classic games rule. I am still amazed you got Chrono Trigger to run on that 12MHz!! Awesome. I have all the Pentium 1 chips from 60MHz to 233MHz. I'm going to test each one tomorrow and find out how many frames I get with each one.:p See what the bare minimum I can get Zsnes to run 60FPS, with and without sound in DOS. I might do 486's as well.

I still have my old pentium 1 @ 200mhz that ran CT at about 35 frames... it didn't beat the 12mhz laptop by much considering it has like 17 times more clockspeed. Bah, maybe it runs that slow as long as it doesn't have mmx. Who knows, tell me how your tests turn out.

EDIT: Now it's begining to bother me, I'm going to find that stupid laptop and test it.

Post by **grinvader** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:56 pm

I doubt your laptop with 12MHz could run zsnes.

My old 286 was 12MHz. It had a whole MB of ram - not enough to load any rom. I think your memory removed a 0 from the clock speed of your laptop.

Cyrus · Post by **Cyrus** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:01 pm

grinvader wrote:I doubt your laptop with 12MHz could run zsnes.

My old 286 was 12MHz. It had a whole MB of ram - not enough to load any rom. I think your memory removed a 0 from the clock speed of your laptop.

No I'm certain it was 12mhz. This laptop was one of the very first to have colour -_-" And it was upgraded to have Über windows 3.1.

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:36 am

I had a 12 MHz 286 with a whopping 2 MB of RAM. It could barely run QBasic Gorillas at full speed.

Did they even make 12 MHz 386s? I thought the lowest 386 was 16 MHz.

Oblivion · Post by **Oblivion** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:48 am

I have a 100Mhz P1 that runs F-Zero at a whopping 6FPS in DOS Zsnes and sound off.

kevman · Post by **kevman** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:50 am

I think they did.

And made 16Mhz 486s, IIRC.

Anyway, I hardly get 30FPS out of my k6-2+ 500, but I think that's because I am runninf 2k on it.

Esturk · Post by **Esturk** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:14 am

Well the results of my tests are as follows.

My goal was to get games running at a solid 60FPS in ZSNES DOS with stereo sound enabled. No filters or anything, just plain old SNES.

Video
320x240 16bit (For transparency)
Triple Buffering

Sound
32,000KHz, Stereo, Gaussian Interpolation

Now the slowest system I could get a solid 60FPS out of was this..
Pentium II 350, 100MHz FSB, 512Kb L2 cache
32Mb PC100 SDRAM
4Mb ATI Rage Pro AGP

And this was using the settings I wrote above.

Richard C. · Post by **Richard C.** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:43 am

that info will be very useful for the docs. were you running zsnes in pure dos, or through a console in windows?

Esturk · Post by **Esturk** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:46 am

It was run under pure DOS. I can't say it's perfect setting, I'll have to work on it some more.

Richard C. · Post by **Richard C.** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:39 am

No matter what, it's more accurate than the educated guesses some of the developers gave (what you will find for the system requirements on the docs).