Slow Down Rom?

Rudajie · Post by **Rudajie** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:26 am

First off thanks for reading this and helping if you can. I am starting to rip sprites and use them in flash movies, comics, and just for the hell of it. Most of the time I can rip sprites, but there are those that just move WAY too fast for me to take a snap shot of. For example, DBZ HYPDM roms sprites occasionally move too fast for me to take snap shots of. Is it possible to slow down zsnes (btw i'm too stupid to learn the name of the emulator) rom rate? Thanks!

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:29 am

First thing first, make your avatar smaller.

Post by **Agozer** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:31 am

Push the slowdown key. Whatever.

Tallgeese · Post by **Tallgeese** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:11 am

snkcube wrote:First thing first, make your avatar smaller.

And less... homoerotic.

illegal eagle · Post by **illegal eagle** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:17 am

Maybe this helps, though it's slow:

- play to the scene that has the gfx that you want
- save to a savestate
- quit and start ZSNES (DOS) with the -d parameter and the ROM's path and filename (8.3 format)
- load the savestate (F4)
- hold the Enter key. Afaik, the 2nd number the top shows the the current line number and the 1st shows the remaining CPU cycles for the line.
- save (F2) from time to time and examine the savestate

Ichinisan · Post by **Ichinisan** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:36 am

You could record a ZSNES Movie. While playing back, press F1 to bring up the menu (not the GUI) and use the advance frame feature.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 8:35 pm

snkcube wrote:First thing first, make your avatar smaller.

Seconded.

Rudajie · Post by **Rudajie** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:49 pm

First off this is about slowing down Z-Nes not my avatar, for anyone that doesn't like it you can kiss my ass. I was just wondering if there is a way to slow down the frame rate. I read an Idea about recording a movie, and I don't think thats going to work, thanks anyways. I belive that on the Snes 9x there is a slow key where you press and hold Shift and than click =

Is there anything like that on Z-Nes?

Kagerato · Post by **Kagerato** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:52 pm

Go back and read the third post.

Set the slowdown key in the key configuration dialog, loaded via the last menu.

Rudajie · Post by **Rudajie** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:55 pm

Thank-You Kagerato. I thought that guy was just saying for me to make and set my own key I didn't know where it was or if it exsisted.

Ichinisan · Post by **Ichinisan** » Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:25 pm

The avatar thing...it's in the board rules.

I believe that my earlier suggestion should work. [edit: (confirmed)]

1. Record a ZSNES movie.

2. Disable background layers that do not apply

3. Play the recorded ZMV

4. During playback, press F1

5. Select "Incr Frame Only" repeatedly until you reach the part you want to capture (you can hold the Enter key down until you are close to the scene).

6. Use the Snapshot/Incr[ement] Frame option to take successive shots of each frame.

Rudajie · Post by **Rudajie** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:44 am

I'm ripping hyper-dimension sprites and I'm using the program vSnes that illegal eagle made, that requires me to save my state in order to edit it. Since hyper-dimension sprites have a black background and when you disable layers on zsnes (btw i'm too stupid to learn the name of the emulator) theres a black background, your process won't work. Thanks anyways.

Ichinisan · Post by **Ichinisan** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:46 am

ZSNES.

Rudajie · Post by **Rudajie** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:50 am

Rudajie · Post by **Rudajie** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:31 am

I got the slow key working and all, but is there anyway to make it just a little slower?

Post by **Agozer** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:36 am

Rudajie wrote:I got the slow key working and all, but is there anyway to make it just a little slower?

There is no such feature. This has been talkeed about before, but I don't know if Nach or pagefault will implement it.

illegal eagle · Post by **illegal eagle** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:48 am

Rudajie wrote:Since hyper-dimension sprites have a black background and when you disable layers on zsnes (btw i am dumb) theres a black background, your process won't work.

Well, it would work in an 8-bit video mode (ZSNES DOS) - you could edit the palette. But might be too much trouble...

cracker · Post by **cracker** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:12 am

You could run a demanding program in the background and set the frameskip to 0.

PGN-X · Post by **PGN-X** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:14 am

I don't get it, it says zsnes everywhere, you obviously went to the zsnes website and you can see it is clearly zsnes. Why do people continually call "Zsnes" "ZSNES (FYI, I am really really dumb)"???

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:27 am

cracker wrote:You could run a demanding program in the background and set the frameskip to 0.

Or you could just get a really slow computer.

Rudajie · Post by **Rudajie** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:06 am

All good ideas, thx. I'll just have to try and find a program that slows down my pc

Miyomei · Post by **Miyomei** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:09 pm

Rudajie wrote:All good ideas, thx. I'll just have to try and find a program that slows down my pc

Don't bother. Most sprite comics and/or flash movies using sprites from games tend to suck, and using DBZ sprites on multiplies the suckage.

Also, ZSNESWIN + HyperCam + VirtualDub might work.

Rudajie · Post by **Rudajie** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:00 am

Lizking · Post by **Lizking** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:04 am

Rudajie wrote:I'm ripping hyper-dimension sprites and I'm using the program vSnes that illegal eagle made, that requires me to save my state in order to edit it. Since hyper-dimension sprites have a black background and when you disable layers on zsnes (btw i am dumb) theres a black background, your process won't work. Thanks anyways.

I'm not willing to corrupt my harddrive with the trash that is DBZ, but im willing to bet that the background color with no layers on has a slightly different RGB value than the black outlines of the sprites. using the paintbucket tool in MSPaint is a very easy method of determining that.
or, you could just re-draw the outlines if the background color is the same as the outline of the sprites.

and don't complain about how long that would take. I've made some AniGIFs from N64 games. You have no idea how long that takes, and how tedious it is. No, you don't. Trust me.
I've even made one where I had to rip each frame 3 or 4 times, because of a snow effect that technically were sprites, and thus covered different parts of the sprite I wanted. I had to patch together whole frames from peices of several.