Question about SNES-Game Auction

Hyos · Post by **Hyos** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:10 pm

Hi,

what do you think about this auction of a Seiken Densetsu 3 cartridge:

Link

Unfortunately it is in German, but what is fishy to me is that the seller claims that it is original, but also a PAL version (does such a thing even exist?) and also I believe the sticker on the cartridge is fake as it says Secret Of Mana 2 while it should say Seiken Densetsu 3? Can anyone point me to pics of a real one so I can compare?

Louis Cypher · Post by **Louis Cypher** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:16 pm

It's a cartridge someone constructed using a translation, most likely.

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:48 pm

When you say it's in German, do you mean just the auction or the game as well?

Because knowing them, the game's probably in German too.

sweener2001 · Post by **sweener2001** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:13 pm

the box and manual don't match the cartridge. the box and manual are in japanese, and have a three on them. the cartridge is in english and has a two. and gamefaqs is only showing a japanese release.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:14 pm

I'm offering the one-time chance, the sought-after role-playing game for SNES.

"Secret of Mana 2
Pal version
with game guide (128 pages)"

This is one of the rarest role-playing games ever, since it has been published only in Japan and never got published in Germany.

The game is playable without adaptor and without modded SNES.

This auction includes
- game Secret of Mana 2 PAL
- OVP [means original wrapping/packaging]
- manual, game guide (128 pages)

and there's also a listing of the transformations of the characters and their weapons and equipment.

(46 pages)

Hyos · Post by **Hyos** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:21 pm

I wrote the seller a message asking about the origins of the game and the sticker. But any Japan relase only PAL game is like 99.9% fake, or has anyone heard of such a thing?

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:38 pm

sd3 was released in japan only.

there is a german translation of the game with a "secret of mana 2" title screen for download.

he took the japanese cart, modded it with a custom chip to hold the german translation, then printed a label and slapped it on. the box and guide book are the original japanese extras that came with the japanese game.

do not question me, my previous statements are 100% fact.

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:51 pm

Oh, I thought it was assumed from the beginning that SD3 being a jap only release was extremely common knowledge. Guess I'm getting old.

Still, I'd buy it, if the game were in English....and if the starting price wasn't so ridiculous.

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:23 pm

I could rig up one of these carts, I have a bunch of 16MB chips sitting around (think SoM, SD3, CT, Terranigma multicart!) I ripped apart my NP flash cart, so I got those 2x2MB chips. though if I were to sell a cart with a translated game on it the community would bitch at me so I won't do it.

kieran_ · Post by **kieran_** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:31 pm

phOnYmIkE wrote: PM ME FOR FURTHER DETAILS

ReRuss · Post by **ReRuss** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:21 am

Well the auction does state the game was only released in Japan and never in Germany , and claims the cart is playable without adapters n such

Hyos · Post by **Hyos** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:23 am

My guess is he is passing some cart off as the real deal, but how can he claim to have it run on a PAL Snes, even if it is a patched ROM? I am aware that there is a German translation, but can you just stick a NTSC ROM into a PAL cart and have it running perfectly?

Deathlike2 · Post by **Deathlike2** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:27 am

Hyos wrote:My guess is he is passing some cart off as the real deal, but how can he claim to have it run on a PAL Snes, even if it is a patched ROM? I am aware that there is a German translation, but can you just stick a NTSC ROM into a PAL cart and have it running perfectly?

Some games are sensitive to timing. However, it isn't impossible to make this happen. This reeks of "translated patched ROM" anyways. You have to factor in the company in question who made the original Jap version. Why in hell would Squaresoft make a German version of the game? They wouldn't.

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:02 pm

Hah! Actually I take that back - I was planning on getting a SNES flash cart sometime soon which sorta makes buying a homemade cart with one game pointless.