RetroGaming!

r3trogam3r · Post by **r3trogam3r** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:14 pm

Hello!

Please don't consider this topic as spam or advertisement.

I'm a huge retrogaming fan and I have come up with a website dedicated to RetroGaming: http://www.flash-back.co.nr

Im looking for staff members for the site. Following are the available positions:

1. Game Reviewer / Writer
2. Forum Moderators
3. Sprite / Pixel Artists

Anyone interested please leave a reply.

PEACE.

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:21 pm

Old != Retro

But good luck with the site.

r3trogam3r · Post by **r3trogam3r** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:07 pm

Thank you!

MorteTheSkull · Post by **MorteTheSkull** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:54 pm

Johan_H wrote:Old != Retro

But good luck with the site.

...how precisely do you define retro, then?

The term "retro" comes from the concept of being retrospective, meaning looking into the past. So by proxy, "retro" games are old games, as they are in the past.

r3trogam3r · Post by **r3trogam3r** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:18 pm

Exactly. But I didn't want to start an arguement...

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:10 pm

MorteTheSkull wrote:...how precisely do you define retro, then?

The term "retro" comes from the concept of being retrospective, meaning looking into the past. So by proxy, "retro" games are old games, as they are in the past.

No, old games are just old games.
Games like Megaman 9, that imitate the style of games from an earlier time, are retro.
Would you call Casablanca a retro movie? The Time Machine a retro sci-fi book?

They are separate words for a reason.

Francis64 · Post by **Francis64** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:06 am

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3A+retro

Cool site BTW

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:13 am

Johan_H wrote:
MorteTheSkull wrote:...how precisely do you define retro, then?

The term "retro" comes from the concept of being retrospective, meaning looking into the past. So by proxy, "retro" games are old games, as they are in the past.
No, old games are just old games.
Games like Megaman 9, that imitate the style of games from an earlier time, are retro.
Would you call Casablanca a retro movie? The Time Machine a retro sci-fi book?

They are separate words for a reason.

Actually, retrogaming was coined FAR before neo-retro games like Megaman 9.

I mean, there's even a classic gaming magazine titled Retro Gamer.
http://www.retrogamer.net/

The term is being used properly.

r3trogam3r · Post by **r3trogam3r** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:11 am

Francis64 wrote:http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3A+retro

Cool site BTW

Thanks Francis!

BTW, I still did'nt get a single reply based on the topic!

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:39 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:Actually, retrogaming was coined FAR before neo-retro games like Megaman 9.

Did I imply otherwise?

Gil_Hamilton wrote:I mean, there's even a classic gaming magazine titled Retro Gamer.
http://www.retrogamer.net/

The term is being used properly.

I know about that magazine and I think they too are using it wrong.

Francis64 wrote:http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3A+retro

Exactly. See how they define it as "a fashion reminiscent of the past", not "Something that is from the past". That's what I'm getting at.

EDIT: Actually, thinking about it some more, I can see how playing old games could possibly be referred to as "retro gaming" (though that makes it sound as if you're doing it because it's your "style" or whatever), but not at all how an old game can be called a "retro game".

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:10 pm

Johan_H wrote:I think they too are using it wrong.

¬_¬

Careful there, mutating into Jack isn't healthy. I think so, so it has to be.

OH NOES IT'S CONTAGIOUS ! GET TO THA CHOPPA !1!

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:39 pm

grinvader wrote:
Johan_H wrote:I think they too are using it wrong.
I think so, so it has to be.

Well, no. But does it have to be just 'cause some magazine thinks so though?
Really, think about how the word is defined by dictionaries. It doesn't imply that things from the past are retro. It implies that things that are like things from the past are retro. So by definition, an old game cannot be retro unless they were when they were created.
And again, sure I can see how "gaming like in the past" could be called retro gaming. But it still sounds pretty dumb to me, like calling the act of watching an old move "retro movie-watching" or something.

More on topic: What kind of pixel art and how much of it do you need, OP?

r3trogam3r · Post by **r3trogam3r** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:06 pm

Haha this topic is really heating up!

More on topic: What kind of pixel art and how much of it do you need, OP?

At the moment We just need one pixel artist for the team. I'll pm you the details.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:00 pm

Johan_H wrote:
grinvader wrote:
Johan_H wrote:I think they too are using it wrong.
I think so, so it has to be.
Well, no. But does it have to be just 'cause some magazine thinks so though?

The magazine didn't make the phrase up, though. They adopted it as their title because it was already in common usage and made their goal immediately clear.

Really, think about how the word is defined by dictionaries. It doesn't imply that things from the past are retro. It implies that things that are like things from the past are retro. So by definition, an old game cannot be retro unless they were when they were created.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retro

: relating to, reviving, or being the styles and especially the fashions of the past : fashionably nostalgic or old-fashioned <a retro look>

Emphasis mine.

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:34 pm

Gil_Hamilton wrote:http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retro

: relating to, reviving, or being the styles and especially the fashions of the past : fashionably nostalgic or old-fashioned <a retro look>
Emphasis mine.

The styles, not the things. That should mean that something has to use a style from the past to be retro. If simply using a contemporary style and then aging counts as that, then sure, I guess I'm wrong.

r3trogam3r · Post by **r3trogam3r** » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:54 pm

Hello all,

I've redesigned the forum theme completely. Please have a look!

PHoNyMiKe · Post by **PHoNyMiKe** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:22 am

retrosexual?

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:40 am

Johan_H wrote:
Gil_Hamilton wrote:http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/retro

: relating to, reviving, or being the styles and especially the fashions of the past : fashionably nostalgic or old-fashioned <a retro look>
Emphasis mine.
The styles, not the things. That should mean that something has to use a style from the past to be retro. If simply using a contemporary style and then aging counts as that, then sure, I guess I'm wrong.

Way I read it...

Being the style of the past is "it was new, but then it got old, and now it's cool again."

Reviving the style of the past is "Megaman 9"