So, SFIV is going to have 3D graphics.

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:09 pm

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3164756

Great, there goes one of the last bastions of 2D animation. Fuck you, Capcom. Way to turn SF into yet another stiff plastic doll collection.

Post by **grinvader** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:38 pm

I was more concerned with the lack of street fighter IV and V, but it's just a common case of roman numeral fuckup.

Have a nice day. :D

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:48 pm

What? Did I do anything wrong? :D

Seriously though, I've known roman numerals since primary school, there was no excuse for my fuckup there. :(

Anyway, back on topic: Shitsux.

Snark · Post by **Snark** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:28 pm

blackmyst wrote: Anyway, back on topic: Shitsux.

I have nothing against 3d fighting games, in fact many great fighters franchise are in 3d, but yeah...Street Fighter in 3d is not SF..If it's gonna play like Virtua Fighter or Soul Calibur, I don't see the point. Maybe it'll turn out to be a revolutionary 3d fighters, but I doubt it.

edit: I think 2d will be kept alive for quite some times via fan programmers...Check out some Doujin games.

Johan_H · Post by **Johan_H** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:51 pm

3D and 2D fighters play very differently, both are enjoyable but I prefer 2D.

So I guess this is going to be like Street Fighter II EX with more polygons and cell-shading and shit.

*Sigh*

EDIT: Why is Ryu looking like a cross-eyed moron?

casualsax3 · Post by **casualsax3** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:03 pm

Those that read the article would see that it's strictly 2D gameplay.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:15 pm

casualsax3 wrote:Those that read the article would see that it's strictly 2D gameplay.

I was just about to mention that. So everyone, please, stop bitching.

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:46 pm

Snark wrote:edit: I think 2d will be kept alive for quite some times via fan programmers...Check out some Doujin games.

Yeah but... none of them really have the time or budget to make beautiful animation like in SF3. :\

I like Soul Calibur as well. That's not the point though, it's just that people who want 3D graphics are already spoilt for choice. It's retarded that assholes just have to weed out every single last fucking trace of any 2D graphics out there. A 2D SFIV could've been so beautiful. Instead we're going to get stiff fucking mannequins instead of real animation.

snkcube wrote:
casualsax3 wrote:Those that read the article would see that it's strictly 2D gameplay.
I was just about to mention that. So everyone, please, stop bitching.

Yeah, and those that read my original post would see that I couldn't care less about that. My problem is that it will look like shit.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:03 am

There aren't any gameplay videos out to judge if the game has shitty animations or not. Let's just wait and see.

Snark · Post by **Snark** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:32 am

blackmyst wrote:
Snark wrote:edit: I think 2d will be kept alive for quite some times via fan programmers...Check out some Doujin games.
Yeah but... none of them really have the time or budget to make beautiful animation like in SF3. :\

Check Melty Blood. In my opinion, it's easily on part with many big companies' games.

I like Soul Calibur as well. That's not the point though, it's just that people who want 3D graphics are already spoilt for choice. It's retarded that assholes just have to weed out every single last fucking trace of any 2D graphics out there. A 2D SFIV could've been so beautiful. Instead we're going to get stiff fucking mannequins instead of real animation.

No arguments there.

Yeah, and those that read my original post would see that I couldn't care less about that. My problem is that it will look like shit.

Time will tell us I guess. Speaking of which,was there ever a 3d fighting game with *2D* gameplay that didn't sux? Like, the only game I can think of are Street Fighter EX/Rival Schools/Final Fight Revenge...

Not exactly great stuff...

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:19 am

Snark wrote:
Yeah, and those that read my original post would see that I couldn't care less about that. My problem is that it will look like shit.
Time will tell us I guess. Speaking of which,was there ever a 3d fighting game with *2D* gameplay that didn't sux? Like, the only game I can think of are Street Fighter EX/Rival Schools/Final Fight Revenge... Not exactly great stuff...

The Smash Bros. series? Sure, they aren't "regular" fighters, but it's still a lot of fun to play.

Neo Kaiser · Post by **Neo Kaiser** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:49 am

If it worked with shooters it may work with fighter games.

Gil_Hamilton · Post by **Gil_Hamilton** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:33 am

And Insert Credit would like to point out that the first picture shows Ryu with a raging hardon.

blackmyst · Post by **blackmyst** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:25 am

snkcube wrote:There aren't any gameplay videos out to judge if the game has shitty animations or not. Let's just wait and see.

It has 3D models. It will look stiff, artificial and dead compared to the organic lively motions in SFIII. No other 3D game has ever proven otherwise, why would this one be any different? It's the nature of the beast.

Snark wrote:Check Melty Blood. In my opinion, it's easily on part with many big companies' games.

Yeah, I've seen bits of that, good point. IMO it still doesn't quite reach Capcom's heights, though.

Snark · Post by **Snark** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:10 pm

blackmyst wrote:
Snark wrote:Check Melty Blood. In my opinion, it's easily on part with many big companies' games.
Yeah, I've seen bits of that, good point. IMO it still doesn't quite reach Capcom's heights, though.

If we're talking SF3 specifically, then I agree, which is why I was talking generally. Capcom however has developped some crappy stuff, namely, the whole cross-over fighters.

Melty Blood could be described imo as visually similar to KoF (but MUCH better animated) with the gameplay heavily inspired by Guilty Gear (a fighting game know for it's deep engine)

Snark · Post by **Snark** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:32 pm

Oh I found the Doujin game "Glove on Fight" Imo it's pretty sweet. Definitely very different than the usual fighting game.

edit:

Nice: Retro Street Fighter CE high level play...Honestly I never thought there was much depth to the original(s) Street Fighter 2. I mean compared to more modern iterations, but those Japanese players somehow managed to find depth in it...Well the game WERE more limited, so it's always impressive to see people pushing the game to it's limits.

I know most probably won't give a hoot but for those can recognize high level play when they see it:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=L3PyWxVSkhY

Panzer88 · Post by **Panzer88** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:39 am

I love how they have commentators for a tournament of Street Fighter, we need to get some of that over here.

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:40 pm

Snark wrote:Melty Blood could be described imo...

ATARI DUMBLEDORE

that is all

corronchilejano · Post by **corronchilejano** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:52 am

I always thought Chun Li was broken in SF2.

Joe Camacho · Post by **Joe Camacho** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:11 am

I hated SFII when I was younger, or maybe I still do, I can't do a hadoken motion on a gamepad, even if my life depended on it.

I remember when I was a kid, I used to work at an Uncle's Shop, working with my cousins, the shop used to have 2 arcade machines, very old school, like, the ones that used coins with grooves as credits. One of the machines always got a new game everytime the arcade guy came to collect remove the coins, the other one always had: STREET FIGHTER II.

It was funny to watch people play that machine, like, every kid that came in played as RYU, if someone else wanted to play, they waited until the person playing would lose, to choose RYU again. If someone lost agains on of the bosses, instead of using a credit to restart the match, they would wait and start all over again. (Later on, I realized, that the shop was at a sort of poor neighborhood, so the kids wanted to squeeze as much fun out of the credits they bought)

Once my Uncle asked one of the Kids why did everyone choose Ryu, the kid told him that wasn't true, that not everyone just played as Ryu, he bought a token.. And he chose Ken.

But yeah, Street Fighter II, I had to use Guile to be able to withstand a bit the hadoken onslaught of my cousins. I like Smash Brothers sooo much.

corronchilejano · Post by **corronchilejano** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:25 am

I chose Ken over Ryu because I thought his rolling throw (with hard kick) was ultra awesome, but my favorite by far was Dhalsim. I have something for underdogs.

Snark · Post by **Snark** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:48 pm

grinvader wrote: ATARI DUMBLEDORE

Yeah...that's the problem with road congestion, you always end up in it when you least want it, I agree.

Panzer88 wrote:I love how they have commentators for a tournament of Street Fighter, we need to get some of that over here.

They actually have live commentators when they have Virtua Fighter 5 tournaments (and I mean real commentators. Not the annoying pre-recorded ones of the game) . I guess the players are used to just block it out somehow, as I would think having your every move commented live would tend to be distracting.

megamanzer0 · Post by **megamanzer0** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:47 am

Only if you're the one getting your ass handed to you

Snark · Post by **Snark** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:23 pm

megamanzer0 wrote:Only if you're the one getting your ass handed to you

No. I'd be annoying either way.

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:16 am

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/16818

Some gameplay footage revealed. It's not bad from what I've seen. If you folks want to watch the stuff without the interviews, check out the links below this.

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/16863
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/16864

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