Kega Fusion v3.61

Neo Kaiser · Post by **Neo Kaiser** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:59 am

Dullaron wrote:I joking Neo Kaiser. lol

But of course you're!

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:33 am

h4tred wrote:And those fucking Americans too.

Shut up.

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:43 am

adventure_of_link wrote:
h4tred wrote:And those fucking Americans too.
Shut up.

Shut up please!

bobthebuilder · Post by **bobthebuilder** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:56 am

Neo Kaiser wrote: Anyway Steve Snake and AamirM are helping each other and not competing.

Steve Snake is actually helping out when he can and so is AamirM. Go to the sprites mind forums to see them help each other out.

AamirM · Post by **AamirM** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:41 am

For anybody who didn't get it, I was joking dammit!!!

h4tred · Post by **h4tred** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:23 am

Shut up.

Well, well, well, if it isn't the mod with the stick up its ass. You think I was referring to byuu, right? Well I WASN'T. I have nothing against byuu or BSNES, but I DO have issues with people like YOU, who constantly tell me to shut up.

Shut up please!

I don't appreciate your tone.

For anybody who didn't get it, I was joking dammit!!!

No your not.

adventure_of_link · Post by **adventure_of_link** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:41 am

h4tred wrote:
Shut up.
Well, well, well, if it isn't the mod with the stick up its ass

Well well well, it's the user with the stick up his ass

just like a good majority of this board, so get used to it.

Post by **grinvader** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:16 pm

my stick could beat up your stick lawl

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:39 pm

h4tred wrote:
Shut up.
Well, well, well, if it isn't the mod with the stick up its ass. You think I was referring to byuu, right? Well I WASN'T. I have nothing against byuu or BSNES, but I DO have issues with people like YOU, who constantly tell me to shut up.

Shut up please!
I don't appreciate your tone.

For anybody who didn't get it, I was joking dammit!!!
No your not.

I was telling A_O_L to be polite when telling people to shut up

Neo Kaiser · Post by **Neo Kaiser** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:43 pm

I feel a little guilty for the chaos in this thread. If the monkey comes over...It will be the end...

This thread is so full of lulz.

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:50 pm

Neo Kaiser wrote:I feel a little guilty for the chaos in this thread. If the monkey comes over...It will be the end...

This thread is so full of lulz.

I saw that

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:49 pm

The new Fusion fullscreen features are fantastic! I like using the combo of aspect fit and nearest multiple on my 1680x1050 screen. It saves me the hassle of creating center-timed custom resolutions on my graphic card. If I could make one request, it would be an extra feature called "non-corrected fit". This would allow for 256x240 modes with "nearest multiple" to be zoomed to sizes like 1024x960 instead of 1280x960. I've never been a fan of software aspect correction.

Also my favorite crappy video game "King's Bounty" still has improperly emulated music. It sounds fluttery and some notes stop abruptly. I have the physical cart version and it doesn't sound like that.

King Of Chaos · Post by **King Of Chaos** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:14 pm

FirebrandX wrote:Also my favorite crappy video game "King's Bounty" still has improperly emulated music. It sounds fluttery and some notes stop abruptly. I have the physical cart version and it doesn't sound like that.

I'd inform Steve Snake on Eidolon's Inn on the Kega forums there about that one to see what he says.

neo_bahamut1985 · Post by **neo_bahamut1985** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:58 pm

In the games I've played so far, every game sounds perfect as far as I can tell.

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:18 am

King Of Chaos wrote:
FirebrandX wrote:Also my favorite crappy video game "King's Bounty" still has improperly emulated music. It sounds fluttery and some notes stop abruptly. I have the physical cart version and it doesn't sound like that.
I'd inform Steve Snake on Eidolon's Inn on the Kega forums there about that one to see what he says.

I had mentioned it before to him there back during 3.51, but he was pretty irritable back then and so I don't think he really cared.

Anyway, there's a good comparison to use to see how the music in King's Bounty messes up, and it seems to be sample-rate related. Take the latest Regen and set the sample rate to 48000 and then play King's Bounty. While you are on the horse, listen to the music for a while. Now change the sample rate to 44100 and notice the sound becomes fluttery and unstable, which is exactly how it sounds in Fusion.

AamirM · Post by **AamirM** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:42 am

I'll check it out in Regen. Is it possible that you can do a recording?

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:48 pm

I can if need be. I can even record the real hardware version too.

King Of Chaos · Post by **King Of Chaos** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:19 pm

That would be much appreciated actually.

SteveSnake · Post by **SteveSnake** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:09 am

FirebrandX wrote:I had mentioned it before to him there back during 3.51, but he was pretty irritable back then and so I don't think he really cared.

Irritable? Moi?

More likely it's because I couldn't hear what you were talking about. Still can't... I get on the horse, listen... can't hear anything going wrong. Maybe you can be more specific?

FirebrandX wrote:I've never been a fan of software aspect correction

You'll want to use the DoubleRaw plugin, then.

-edit- might as well put all this in one post...

byuu wrote:Weird, I hadn't noticed that. That may explain why I wasn't able to get Kega to not skip constantly on Vista Ultimate.

byuu wrote:Does Vista have any new, compelling API features to use? The only one that seems neat since Win2k is the Windows 7 taskbar context menus.

As King says, it's all about framerate issues. I notice you're having these in bsnes too. I'm going to send some code to Aamir once I know it's stable and doesn't cause other issues, so you can expect to receive that in your inbox too

byuu wrote:Odd, you'd think aspect correction would be the very last step. It'd really throw off eg HQ2x otherwise.

It is usually, screenshot stuff goes down a different path. My renderer is a bit odd, but its required in order to get certain hardware features accurate.

byuu wrote:Shitfuck o.O

Hope he's using a listbox for all those, would make for one really onerous popup menu

Heh, no - the people requesting this said they didnt care about huge fuckoff menus

I doubt it'll be filled anyway. At least, not with anything useful.

ShadowFX wrote:Thanks a lot! I wonder why this option is not present in the menu.

It's an option you tend to only set once, and I don't like cluttering menus with not very useful options.

ShadowFX wrote:Since when is there (friendly or unfriendly) competition in emulation land?

I think 'competition' is the wrong word.

AamirM wrote:I am coming to get you Kega!!!!!

/reaches for sword
Have At You!

h4tred wrote:We have to show the British bastard who's boss.

Less of the bastard. I'm a c**t.

Neo Kaiser wrote:If the monkey comes over...It will be the end...

Ooh, monkey...

/wanders off looking for monkeys

Squall_Leonhart · Post by **Squall_Leonhart** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:20 am

Steve, there is more interest in plugins then you'd think

especially since vba-m gained the ability to use kega plugins.

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2XPM.rpi
2xPM_LQ.rpi
2XPMLQ.rpi
2xSaI.rpi
4xSaI.rpi
Bilinear.rpi
BilinearPlus.rpi
Double.rpi
DoubleRaw.rpi
Eagle.rpi
EPX.rpi
g2xscale.rpi
hq2x.rpi
HQ2xS.rpi
hq3x.rpi
HQ3xS.rpi
hq4x.rpi
HQxS.rpi
lcd3x.rpi
lcd3x_nommx.rpi
lcd3x_vblend.rpi
lq2x.rpi
LQ2xS.rpi
lq3x.rpi
LQ3xS.rpi
lq4x.rpi
LQ4xS.rpi
MDNTSC.rpi
Scale2x.rpi
Scale3x.rpi
Scale4x.rpi
ScanLineTv.rpi
Super2xSaI.rpi
SuperEagle.rpi
SuperScale.rpi
SuperScale75.rpi

As of this point, there are 37 or 38 plugins available in the kega format, with the chance that more may yet be made, using wolfwings optimised hq2x filter.

Anyway, <3 Kega fusion, especially more so now it has savestate support for Mega-CD games ^_^, Great work Steve

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:43 am

Success! I've managed to figure something new out about the funky sound of King's Bounty in Fusion, and ultimately why nobody else noticed it when they checked:

You have to load another game first, and then load King's Bounty without turning off the emulator. I found this out because I went to record the Fusion sound output and low & behold the sound was fine this time! I was like "WTF?? Why does it sound fine now?" So I fiddled with a bunch of settings and still it sounded fine. Then it came to me that I had played it after testing some other games. So I loaded Castlevania Bloodlines, played a few seconds into the first stage, and then loaded King's Bounty. Viola! The sound was back to being screwed up. I imagine this should be an easy fix as its probably something to do with the sound channels not being cleared and reset or something.

Anyway, I will get back to recording the screwed up sound and get it uploaded just in case you still need a comparison.

King Of Chaos · Post by **King Of Chaos** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:49 am

I might of found one earlier in regards to King's Bounty, the sound pops when you head into the Coliseum during the little dialog choices inside.

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:52 am

King Of Chaos wrote:I might have found one earlier in regards to King's Bounty, the sound pops when you head into the Coliseum during the little dialog choices inside.

The sound pops on the real hardware too.

BTW an update: It appears ONLY loading Castlevania Bloodlines first causes King's Bounty's sound to screw up. I've tried with several other games now and none of them affected it. Also, When loading Castlevania, all you have to do is wait for the first sound from the konami logo screen, and then you can load up King's Bounty with screwy sound.

King Of Chaos · Post by **King Of Chaos** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:54 am

Do you use the load ROM dialog, or do you load the games up from file history? Also do you have the Genesis BIOS enabled?

One last thing, what's your sound settings? I'm going to try to reproduce this.

P.S. Thanks for confirming the sound pops on the real hardware.

EDIT: Actually, got a savestate handy to try this?

FirebrandX · Post by **FirebrandX** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:56 am

Not using the bios files (though I do have them), and I'm loading from the menu file load option for both games. Using 44100 + SuperHQ.

Edit: using a save state file does not work. You still have to load Castlevania to screw up the sound. Its emulator related, so this makes sense.