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Post by **pagefault** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:32 am

http://66.199.241.91/~pagefault/zsnes.jpg

snkcube · Post by **snkcube** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:37 am

Whoa, a Windows GUI. Great work.

Starman Ghost · Post by **Starman Ghost** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:43 am

Windows Gui = Barf. Although I'm sure it was alot of work, so good job on that, but please no windows gui.

LDAWG · Post by **LDAWG** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:58 am

i think this is well... bad-ass! good work pf!

Clements · Post by **Clements** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:09 am

Mixed blessing in my view.

First things first, obviously this is very impressive work. The ZSNES GUI in it's current form has a few limitations that are very hard to solve without hassle (eg. GUI resolution), which this will alleviate in one fell swoop. This will allow for all sorts of quirks that a standard GUI has. On a more cynical (but sadly true) note, this will also please the lazy kiddies who think the Windows GUI of Snes9x makes it automatically a better emulator than ZSNES.

But if this GUI is going to replace the existing GUI with the old one being completely removed, I for one will miss it, since it's been there since I started using ZSNES and have grown to love it more than any other GUI I use for anything. It is great to look at and quite a programming feat in itself to be as functional and customisable as it is without resorting to using a standard Windows GUI.

Post by **pagefault** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:16 am

It's not a "Windows" GUI it's written in GTK+ (the same API firefox uses) so it's fully skinnible to whatever you want it to look like.

http://66.199.241.91/~pagefault/inprogress.png

You can find a list of skins that work with GTK+ here

http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/

Also the old original GUI should be still available in all ports as long as the DOS version is around.

LDAWG · Post by **LDAWG** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:21 am

I have used ZSNES since it was all DOS/Commands... and then with the first GUI (not the current one).
I think this was all ZSNES 0.40 and below.

This skinning stuff rules!

Clements · Post by **Clements** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:30 am

Now I can't wait to see this bad boy in action.

Post by **Nach** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:16 am

Behold:

http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/zsnesgui.7z

Remember this is just to get a reaction, dont expect every little thing to work.

Opinions?

Magus` · Post by **Magus`** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:20 am

I would use RAR instead. I don't think that many people use 7Zip compared to WinRAR.

I could be wrong.

Post by **Nach** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:21 am

Latest WinRAR extract 7Zip files.

Magus` · Post by **Magus`** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:24 am

Oh. I really should keep up with this stuff, I imagine.

Post by **pagefault** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:33 am

Bascially we want to know what you like better. My GTK+ version or Nach's QT version. What do you think looks better and which do you think ZSNES should use.

Post by **Nach** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:39 am

pagefault should follow up with a binary of his own soon enough.

Here's an image of mine in action for those that didn't get the Windows binary.
http://nsrt.edgeemu.com/images/zsnesgui.png

Magus` · Post by **Magus`** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:45 am

While I think your designs are nice, the thing about it is, exactly how much time do people spend in the GUI anyhow?

I'm glad you're updating this stuff, but I, personally, won't really.. care, that much.

Sorry, dudes.

Edit - Nice coding skills, though.

washuu108 · Post by **washuu108** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:35 am

Both of them look alright, but I have to go with Nach's. Just don't like GTK that much. (Especially the file dialog)

Post by **pagefault** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:12 am

I will be using the win32 file dialog in windows.

washuu108 · Post by **washuu108** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:18 am

In that case I wouldn't mind either GUI, don't mind Bluecurve myself...

Post by **Nach** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:34 pm

pagefault wrote:I will be using the win32 file dialog in windows.

We still haven't seen this yet, and what about Linux users? Leave them with the worst file loader ever?

Post by **Agozer** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:20 pm

Looks great. However, I'm not sure if I'm ready to migrate my ZSNES into a Windows-stylw GUI.

Anyway, at least there's a choice.

creaothceann · Post by **creaothceann** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:24 pm

I think it's a step in the right direction.

pagefault wrote:It's not a "Windows" GUI it's written in GTK+ (the same API firefox uses) so it's fully skinnible to whatever you want it to look like.

Well, if you can get it to look like the current ZSNES GUI, even better! Maybe with it's own *.ttf file etc. ...

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:04 pm

And how much work would it take to bolt this on to ZSNES itself? What you've done so far is 15 minutes or less in Qt Designer.

Post by **Nach** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:23 pm

Noxious Ninja wrote:And how much work would it take to bolt this on to ZSNES itself? What you've done so far is 15 minutes or less in Qt Designer.

Or Glade.

If we can write a good emulator frame work which can merge with Qt or GTK+, I doubt it'd take us more than a week to get a new GUI up and running.

We'll probably spend at least a week though coming up with a theme to match as closely as possible our classic GUI.

The main point here is to ask the users if they prefer GTK or Qt. I'm pushing for Qt because it allows a native style which some bland people really appreciate, with GTK our only option is some existing GTK style or one we make up but not a native one. From what I've seen so far, Qt also seems to be somewhat easier to code with than GTK. Case in point I had an executable out with Qt before pagefault despite that he started before I did.

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:35 pm

I've become a Qt fanboi simply because almost every GTK program I've used on Windows has random unexplainable crashes. It may not be GTK itself, but it's turned me off.

Oh, GTK does have a native style, too. GTK-WIMP. I thought it was merged in with the latest GTK releases as the official Windows theme.

MisterJones · Post by **MisterJones** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:30 pm

I h8 GTK-WIMP

I think both of them look nice, but I have grown this liking for the current gui, and I wouldn't want to change it for anyhing.

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